After Zhao Si and the First Emperor resigned, they went straight out of the palace and headed towards Li Si's office.
"The imperial order..." Zhao Si sighed.
I don’t know what Li Si thinks.
Strengthening centralization was not actually the core of Zhao Si's idea. In essence, Zhao Si proposed the eviction order to explain something to the First Emperor.
The era of co-governance by nobles and monarchs has passed!
In essence, Zhao Si wanted to change the status quo of Qin's law squeezing the common people Li Shu, and make the First Emperor realize that Li Shu was the one the First Emperor should fight for, not the nobles.
Centralizing power and strengthening the branches while strengthening the branches was just an irresistible temptation thrown to the First Emperor.
Legalism advocates that the poor make the country rich and the tired people weaken the people. On the contrary, the privileges of the nobility should not be violated. This is contrary to Zhao Si's views as a modern person. From the perspective of Qin Xiaogong, Shang Jun's five skills of controlling the people are good laws. Good governance made Qin rich and powerful, but from Li Shu's point of view, Shang Yang really deserved to die.
People used to live a good life, but when Shang Yang came, the good guy divided the family, continued corvee work, and imposed heavy taxes. If he was not careful, he would become a slave. They also encouraged each other to report on each other and carry out executions. Sitting together, there are only two ways for the old Qin people in Guanzhong, either to become bandits or to become slaves.
In essence, Shang Yang's reform was to exploit certain rights of the great nobles to feed the king, and then exploit certain rights and privileges from the common people to compensate the great nobles.
In the end, only Li Shu's injured world was achieved.
Although the old clan is experiencing labor pains, the direct descendants of the three surnamed Mengxi Bai clans are still widely active in the court and still have extensive influence. The three surnamed clans in the doctor's office are proof of this. Meng Wuzhao, Xiyizhi, Bai Qiang are all colleagues of Zhao Si.
Not to mention the big aristocrats. Although they were deprived of their hereditary ministers and their land by Shang Yang's order, Shang Yang approved the land sale and established twenty-level military titles for them, which could be used to offset their crimes.
Shang Yang's reform, whether it was an old clan or a big noble, all experienced labor pains.
Noble titles in the Qin Dynasty could not be hereditary, and the Qin Dynasty judged merit based on the first rank, but no one spoke out the unspoken rules of the Qin Dynasty's twentieth-level military merit title.
Only those who have reached the rank of doctor are qualified to bear the crime with a title. Below the doctor, from sergeant to sergeant, they must have a real title, that is, only the head of the enemy who is wearing armor and has a title will count.
Moreover, if you are not careful and violate the Qin law, you will be punished by losing your title.
Before becoming a doctor, it was extremely difficult to be promoted to a peerage, and one had to fight hard for each level of peerage.
After becoming a doctor, the speed of promotion has accelerated rapidly. Although merit is still judged by head, merit is the first.
Those great nobles, the direct descendants of the old clan, have never failed in this game, it just increased the difficulty of the game...
The victims of Shang Yang's reforms were never them, but thousands of common people in Guizhou.
They suddenly have to endure endless labor, high taxes, fathers not fathers, sons not sons, neighbors becoming enemies, relatives creating rifts...
Shang Yang's main target of attack was the people, and the big nobles were only slightly damaged in this change.
But this is not bad. After all, the great nobles and old clans in Guanzhong have at least experienced labor pains and shed blood.
At the very least, they have been integrated into Qin's military merit system, becoming vested interests and unswerving defenders of the Qin Dynasty.
But the old nobles of the Six Kingdoms are different.
At present, the laws of the Qin Dynasty are implemented in the world, and the sins suffered by the old Qin people in Guanzhong are imposed on the world. However, the blood shed by the great nobles in Guanzhong does not need to be shed by the old nobles of the six countries. There is no such reason, and Zhao Si is not convinced.
The people at the bottom will not be convinced either.
It’s hard to say whether Chen Sheng and Wu Guang had ulterior motives, or whether they were from noble backgrounds, but it is undeniable that the moment they shouted out that the princes and generals Xiang Ning were born, it was the resistance of the common people at the bottom to the unfair fate, at least at that moment , they are the example of public opinion.
Zhao Si knew that they were suffering and that they were tired.
Attacking the old nobles of the six countries and bleeding the old nobles of the six countries was only Zhao Si's secondary goal. Zhao Si's main goal was to deny the foundation of Qin's five skills of controlling the people.
Zhao Si wanted to secretly change the concept and change the target of exploitation from Li Shu and Guizhou heads to local nobles.
So he gave the First Emperor an offer that was difficult to refuse: to strengthen the weak branches and move the noble orders.
It was indeed difficult for the First Emperor to refuse, but the important task fell on Zhao Si inexplicably.
The kind that couldn't be resisted... Zhao Si simply wanted to do something casually.
In addition to coming up with a lot of bad and immoral ideas with the mentality that I will die so that no one can have a better life, Zhao Si also wanted to take the opportunity to seek some benefits for the real common people in Guizhou and make their lives a little easier.
And if you want to accomplish this, Li Si will never be able to get around it.
Not only did Li Si's assistance be needed to move the imperial order, but Li Si's full help was also needed to abandon the idea of governing the country by foolish, weak, poor, tired, and humiliating people.
After all, Li Si is the defender and maker of today's Qin laws.
If Zhao Si wanted to discover and abandon the Five Arts of Controlling the People, which occupies a core position in Legalist thought, he could not avoid Li Si.
Zhao Si didn't know whether he was an enemy or a friend.
However, Zhao Si had an excuse that could not be refused.
That is the moving order!
If you want to carry out the noble order, you must be good to the people!
It may not be a big problem for Da Qin to offend the great nobles in the world, but if it offends the great nobles and the thousands of common people in the world at the same time, then the problem will be big. This is not a life-threatening disaster, but a disaster for the country. Danger.
The moving order was a bait sent by Zhao Si. It was easiest for the First Emperor to eat this bait. From the perspective of the First Emperor, there was essentially no difference between the nobility and the common people in his eyes. No one could stop the First Emperor from strengthening centralization. Zhao Si only needed Just state the facts. After all, the position where the First Emperor sits is unique in the world.
Li Si may not be so easy to persuade.
He is a noble, a high-ranking official, a contemporary master of Legalism... His butt is not in the same position as the First Emperor.
However, in the past few days, Zhao Si has already made plans in his mind, and he is certain to convince Li Si.
If possible, he certainly hopes that Li Si can reach a united front with him. The best result is that the two work together...
Arriving at Li Si's office, Zhao Si Tongbing was brought in after passing by.
It is worth mentioning that Li Si's office space is also very simple. Apart from a large number of bamboo slips on the bookshelf, there are no other decorations. There is only one desk, one futon, and one person.
"The lower official, Zhao Si, has met Prime Minister Li."
Zhao Si took the lead.
"No need to be rigid, just take a seat first." Li Si raised his head and motioned for Zhao Si to sit down.
"Prime Minister Li must have read the order to move you to the throne. Your Majesty entrusted me with the order. I know that people don't tell secrets. If you want to carry out this strategy, Xiang Li is indispensable for his help. I dare to ask Prime Minister Li, what do you think of the order to move you to the throne?" "Zhao Si got straight to the point and asked questions directly.
This kind of thing is nothing to hide and hide. It is a national policy. If you want to achieve something, you must work together.
"That's a good suggestion." Li Si saw that Zhao Si was straight to the point and didn't try to be mysterious.
"Use power, fame, and wealth to move them, and then use calculations to seize their wealth, and reward them to seize their titles, and then divide them into pieces. It will be much easier to implement the laws of the Qin Dynasty in the world." Li Si smiled. nodded.
Seeing that Li Si had a good impression, Zhao Si was about to ask more questions, but Li Si spoke again.
"However, the Qin Dynasty now rules the country by law, so I will not say anything secret. Whether it is a favor to protect the tomb of the late king, a suspense, a reward, a title, or a family division order, all of them are based on the law. The country is governed by the law. , the Lord Shang moved trees to establish trust. The law was strict and no usurpation was allowed. After the nobles moved to various places, they would be timid and ordered the tribesmen not to violate Qin's laws and Qin's laws. What reasons should be used to make a name for them and to hold them accountable? What about them?" Li Si asked.
This is the question raised by Li You yesterday.
The biggest problem of the Qiangui Order is that the teacher has no name and the law has no limit. It is also the most inconsistent with Li Si.
It's not that Li Si can't see these things, it's just that if he goes one step further, the temptation to surpass Shang Yang in his lifetime is too great.
But Li Si was still worried.
When the other party has not violated Qin's law, or at least you can't produce evidence, you can easily accuse him. Is it really just relying on such outrageous excuses and reasons?
If the canon punishment cannot be clarified, will it really not disrupt the legal system?
Is it really okay to implement Qin laws and regulations while taking the initiative to disrupt the legal system? Will it really have no impact?
This is Li Si's question. Apart from the so-called slightly forced reasons such as remuneration to seize the title, suing out the enemy, and guarding the tomb of the late king, are there any real excuses and upright reasons for becoming a master?
"There is no reason..."
Zhao Si smiled and gave his answer.
Does it really matter if no culpability can be found, or if they committed a crime?
"It's unreasonable?" Li Si repeated, looking at Zhao Si in surprise.
For some reason, he always felt that these three words were a bit too shameless.
"It's unnecessary!" Zhao Si nodded affirmatively.
"Whether they violated the laws of Qin or Qin, Da Qin popularized the laws of Qin and implemented various policies. Li knows better than me where the resistance comes from." Zhao Si said with a smile.
"Either go step by step, just like what Li Xiang is doing now, which is nothing more than continuing to train Qin officials, continue to attack nobles in various places according to Qin laws and Qin laws, and issue various targeted laws. Or concentrate them in Guanzhong and hang the sword. Above their heads, completely solve the obstacles to the spread of Qin's method." Zhao Si smiled.
"Only one, it is the work of hundreds of years. There is the danger of the demise of the government, the danger of changing dynasties, and the worry of the inability of the monarch. The first is to be able to completely lay the foundation for a system according to law in his lifetime. What does Li Xiang think?" Si smiled.
"The Warring States Period was a time of frequent wars, and their respective reforms were either harsh or mild, but I have never heard of a reform without bloodshed. Li knows this better than I do.
Moreover, the current Great Qin is not the Great Qin when Lord Shang carried out his reforms.
When Shang Jun was reforming, the Qin State was worried about the outside world. It was trapped in the pass and could not go eastward. The countries were surrounding it and watching with eager eyes. If they were not careful, there would be the danger of the country's destruction.
Nowadays, Great Qin has no external enemy but the Xiongnu Baiyue. As for the so-called Xiongnu Baiyue, Prime Minister Li should know the situation better than me. The Xiongnu dare not go south to herd horses. Jiujiang Xiangjun is now the territory of Qin. Now Great Qin is troubled within. And not outside.
The local nobles distorted Qin's laws and used them for personal gain. The laws did not reach the local area and the laws did not spread to the people. There was a serious shortage of qualified Qin officials, so Prime Minister Li could only use their hands to promote Qin laws and regulations.
As the agents of Qin's policies, they will of course avoid what is harmful to them and pursue what is beneficial to them. They will only eat the benefits but not the harm. In the long run, Qin's laws and laws will only become a tool for their personal gain.
They will not let the head of Guizhou and the people understand the laws and laws of Qin. They will only let the people know the laws and laws of Qin that they want the people to know. Prime Minister Li should know this better than me.
To solve this problem, either Li Xiang would train enough Qin officials to compete with them, or kill them all.
But even if enough Qin officials are trained, they will be alone in the place where Xianyang is far away and the royal order is long. If they offend the old nobles of the six countries, if they are not careful, they will be in danger of being destroyed. Even if they do not die, the policy will be difficult to implement. They only need to make peace with the old nobles of the six countries, and they can implement the decree, achieve political achievements, and gain power and wealth. How does Li Xiang think these Qin officials will choose? "Zhao Si asked.
Li Si nodded in agreement, which was the main reason why he couldn't put it down when he saw the Qiangui Ling.
Because what Zhao Si said was not conjecture.
At present, there are too few qualified Qin officials in the Qin Dynasty, and they are simply not as good as the local nobles. What political achievements can qualified Qin officials achieve when they arrive alone?
In recent years, Li Si has arrested more and more Qin officials who have made peace with local nobles. This is a big problem.
Not to mention, there are a large number of officials and staff who come from the old nobles of the Six Kingdoms.
"Besides, there is another difference between today's Great Qin and the Great Qin at the time of Lord Shang." Zhao Si said with a smile.
"The Great Qin at the time of Lord Shang's reform was surrounded by powerful enemies. Once the country was destroyed, all the Qin nobles would be in danger of destroying their families. But now... what if the Great Qin is destroyed?" Zhao Si looked at Li Si with interest. .
"I guess they would rather return to the power of the Seven Kingdoms and recreate the grand scene of enfeoffment."
"So, although the nobles of Guanzhong were also attacked by Lord Shang, they were also the targets of Lord Shang's struggle. Because at that time, Great Qin was worried about the outside world, but now, Great Qin is worried about the inside. These local nobles should have been attacked by Great Qin. Object."
"Prime Minister Li, today's world is no longer the time of Shang Jun's reform."
"The people who opened up and expanded the territory of Qin, paid grain and taxes for Qin, and served as corvees were no longer nobles, but thousands of common people.
They and Da Qin no longer share weal and woe. They are no longer the pillars of Da Qin, but the worms of the country. "
"In the past, the merchant kings valued the nobles and despised the common people, so they had five skills to control the people.
In today's world, the common people should be valued more than the nobility.
Lord Shang forced the common people to separate their families, which suddenly increased the number of laborers and high taxes. Was Lord Shang really a good example at that time?
Lord Shang was famous for his role in learning from the old clans and nobles, but he was not famous for learning from the common people.
In today's world, these old nobles of the Six Kingdoms are a problem for the Qin Dynasty. It is not an exaggeration to kill them directly. Do we have to find evidence of their crimes? What if it can’t be found? Are we really going to continue to tolerate them breaking the laws because of this?
I don’t think there is a need for that! "
Zhao Si is trying to change the concept secretly.
Although his face was calm and composed, to be honest, Zhao Si was still a little uneasy about secretly changing concepts in front of Li Si.
(No more, a little depressed)
(End of chapter)