"Transforming the military into civilians?"
Mr. Jiang carefully recalled Zhou Yang's words, but his eyes were filled with memories and a hint of doubt.
Transforming the military into civilians is nothing new. We have already begun exploring this aspect in the 1950s and 1960s.
At that time, senior officials pointed out at the Supreme State Council: In production, we must pay attention to dual-use military and civilian use, pay attention to two sets of production technologies for military and civilian use, and have two sets of production equipment. Normally, production is for civilian use. Once something happens, civilian production can be used. Converted to military production.
In accordance with this spirit, the State Planning Commission and the military production department also formulated the "Measures on Leveraging the Production Capacity of the National Defense Industry and Organizing the Production of Civilian Products in Peacetime."
Subsequently, the above further clearly stated the policy of integrating military and civilian affairs, integrating peacetime and wartime operations, and focusing on the military.
During this period, some military industrial enterprises established civilian product production lines and started the development of civilian products.
But the results were unsatisfactory. After more than ten years of development, the military-to-civilian transition finally came to a standstill.
So when Mr. Jiang heard that Zhou Yang wanted to use the military to civilians to solve the current problems he was facing, he felt that the possibility was slim.
"Comrade Zhou Yang, we have been converting the military to civilians for decades, but you also know the results. I think converting the military to civilians will not solve the current problems!"
Zhou Yang shook his head and said, "Mr. Jiang, I understand what you mean, but I don't think you should be so hasty in drawing conclusions on this matter."
"Whether the military-to-civilian conversion can solve the problems currently encountered by our military industrial enterprises in the development, we must first understand what the fundamental problems we are currently facing are. Only by clarifying this can we prescribe the right medicine!"
Mr. Jiang nodded and said: "The biggest problem we are facing now is the lack of money. As long as we have money, all problems can be solved!"
"No, you haven't gotten to the point yet. The problem we are facing now is not just a lack of money!" Zhou Yang said.
"Oh, what other questions are there?" Mr. Jiang asked curiously.
"On the surface, the problem we are facing now is the lack of research funds, but in fact it is that our military industrial enterprises lack independent hematopoiesis capabilities and rely entirely on blood transfusions from the state. This is the essence and core of the problem!" Zhou Yang said.
Mr. Jiang's eyes lit up, and he immediately said: "You are right, our scientific research institutes and military industrial units do lack the ability to produce blood independently. If every unit can be like your research institute, there will be no current difficulties. Got it!"
"Yes, after all, if these military-industrial units and scientific research institutes want to survive, it's best to rely on themselves!" Zhou Yang said.
"This is easier said than done. You must know that the vast majority of our units survive by supplying equipment to the troops. Once the procurement amount of the troops is reduced, they will face difficulties."
Then Mr. Jiang continued: "It is too difficult to solve the funding problem by ourselves. For now, it is completely impossible..."
Before he finished speaking, Zhou Yang said calmly: "No matter how difficult it is, can it be as difficult as the poverty and poverty we experienced when we founded the country?"
"I think that when we faced the economic blockade of the entire West, we also had to face their strict technical blockade, and there were interference and sabotage by enemy agents at home. Even so, our attitude remained firm, and we even proudly told those Western powers: Block it! If we block it for ten or eight years, we will have everything!"
"The result is exactly the same. In just twenty years, our scientific and technological level has developed by leaps and bounds. From a "foreign nails", "match fire", "foreign oil", "foreign noodles"... everything has " In the barbaric era of science and technology with a "foreign" character, not only did we have the first car, the first airplane, the first modern steel factory, and the first heavy machinery factory we manufactured..."
"We also have "two bombs and one satellite" nuclear weapons, established an independent and complete industrial system and national economic system, and broke the nuclear monopoly and nuclear blackmail of the superpowers. We did not face difficulties more than 20 years ago. We did it. I believe We can still do it now!”
Mr. Jiang said with some excitement: "Well said, we could do it before, and we can do it now!"
Zhou Yang nodded and said: "The main reason why previous attempts to convert the military into civilians failed was that the military industrial enterprises themselves were under construction and development, and management could not keep up with development needs. The quality of military products needed to be improved urgently, and the development of civilian products had little effect."
"Coupled with some well-known reasons in the later period, many military industrial enterprises have difficulty in normal production and construction, and the policy of integrating military and civilian operations has not been well implemented. So it is not that the policy of converting military to civilians cannot solve the problem, but that we are in the process of implementation It’s just not done well!”
"As long as the above problems are avoided, the future of military-to-civilian conversion is still very good. It doesn't matter how much profit will be handed over to the superior department, but at least it can be self-sufficient."
Mr. Jiang was silent for a moment, and then said, "Are you so confident?"
"Yes, the current situation is very different from previous years. If we convert the military into civilians at this time, the effect may be very good!" Zhou Yang said.
"Oh, why is this?" Mr. Jiang asked curiously.
"The key to converting the military into civilians is to make money. As long as they can make money, military industrial companies will receive development funds, and then it is considered a success. If you want to make money, you must consider products, technology and the market."
Then Zhou Yang continued: "Compared with more than ten years ago, our market is much larger now, and military industry companies control a large amount of technology. As long as we can find the products that ordinary people need, we will definitely have no problem making money!"
"It's not as light as you said..."
Before Mr. Jiang finished speaking, he heard Zhou Yang say again: "Don't you believe it? Just a few days ago, I went to Qingcheng and helped Mr. Nie with a project, which is expected to solve their 4 million funding problem." gap!"
"Oh, is there anything else?"
Then Mr. Jiang said again: "What kind of project did your kid do for them? How do you make so much money?"
"ice cream!"
"Ice cream? Is it the ice cream we ate?"
"Yes, our project is to produce ice cream and sell it to the people in Qingcheng!" Zhou Yang said.
"This...can this make money?"
"Yes. Although the project has just started and the production capacity has not been increased yet, even so, you can earn hundreds or thousands of dollars a day. When the production capacity is increased later, you will definitely be able to earn several million a year. !" Zhou Yang said confidently.
Hearing this, Mr. Jiang fell silent.
After a while, he said again: "If you were asked to do this military-civilian conversion, what would you do?"
Zhou Yang thought for a while and said: "If I were to do it, the first thing would be to decompose and reorganize the production factors of national defense, strive to achieve effective allocation of resources, and tap the potential of equipment, technology, and talents. This will allow each research department to transform from simply providing National defense construction services are transformed into serving both national defense construction and national economic construction.”
"At the same time, we will inspect the market to determine what people need, and then develop and produce products according to each unit to make profits!"
"Then what issues need to be paid attention to?" Mr. Jiang asked again.
Zhou Yang immediately said: "First of all, we need to change our thinking. Don't let companies regard the conversion of military to civilians only as a temporary solution to solve immediate difficulties, but as a long-term, major matter related to the survival of the unit!"
"Secondly, we should pay attention to the fact that each unit casts a wide net in project selection, lacks foresight, and blindly follows the trend. Don't focus on those in-demand commodities, such as bicycles, refrigerators, electric fans, sewing machines, etc. The main thing is to decide which projects to pursue. What are the technical advantages of each unit? It’s up to them to do what they can!”
"Then we need to pay attention to the quality of our products and avoid those low-end mass-produced goods, which are high-cost and lack competitiveness..."
Zhou Yang talked eloquently for more than half an hour.
When Zhou Yang explained his thoughts, Mr. Jiang listened carefully. When he got to the key points, he would take out his notebook and write for a while.
The two chatted for more than two hours, asking and answering questions, and then the conversation ended.
Although Mr. Jiang did not express his position until Zhou Yang left.
But Zhou Yang could tell that this person really listened to his words, which gave Zhou Yang a faint sense of expectation...
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PS: Chapter 2 is delivered!
