In daily management, Wang Xiaolie rarely uses vigorous and decisive methods, and most of the time he moisturizes things quietly. As long as you make a mistake, you must accept punishment. The more you handle it, the more people will naturally remember it.
Regarding maidservants, Wang Xiaolie had reminded Chen Qiudao many times before. But what does Chen Qiudao think of hiring a few maids? I just couldn't listen to it. It can be said that it is inevitable that something will happen to the family this time. If nothing happens this time, something will happen next time.
After a while, the food and drinks were served, and several people chatted while drinking. Just talk about trivial matters and the atmosphere is relaxed. Slowly, Chen Qiudao's mood relaxed. Although Chen Qiudao didn't say anything about his sudden suspension, he was still under great psychological pressure. These days, try not to think about anything and just follow the internal schedule. Wang Xiaolie had always had a gentle attitude, which finally allowed him to relieve his psychological pressure.
After chatting for a while, Wang Xiaolie said: "Since we occupied Xiangyang and we have our own territory, I have thought a lot. Especially officials. After thinking about it, I found that there are not many people in the world who are suitable to be officials. In the crowd The proportion of them is very small. If unsuitable people are used as officials, the government will inevitably sacrifice some principles, otherwise it will not be sustainable. In the eyes of some people, who can't be an official? As long as I am given the power, I can do anything. It seems to be just the way it is. In fact, it is not the case at all. If you use people as officials casually, you will inevitably relax the requirements for officials. This is not acceptable. Once we occupy a piece of territory and have our own army, we should do something different. We have to do things that others think are difficult. We cannot take things lightly that others think are insignificant. In short, do something that no one has done before, and do good things that truly benefit the country and the people."
Wang Ruohai said: "I have never seen another official like Jieshuai, who really thinks about the country and the people. Most people can say it, but it is difficult for him to actually do it. .”
Chen Yuyi said: "That's right. There are many things that Shuai has carefully considered and are beyond our control."
Wang Xiaolie smiled and shook his head: "Everyone likes to hear nice words, but it's not a good thing if someone says it in your ears every day. As long as everyone can work hard, there is nothing we can't do. Let's go back to officials. Since not everyone can be an official, how to select is a big problem. In the eyes of the imperial court, we have doubts when we are a vassal town. After several years in Xiangyang, very few formal scholars have come to us. In the past, The same is true for officials. In their view, it is far better to be an official in the industry than to be an official in the government. Therefore, our officials have to rely on their own selection. The talent base is already poor. If there are many people selected, we cannot be too strict. . In this way, many of the officials we appoint must be unqualified. In my opinion, these officials cannot be officials for a while and stay for a lifetime. Those who are not suitable must be cleared out in time. Only by moving in and out quickly can we take an overall view. Ensure the quality of officials. However, if you don’t let people become officials, you can’t just let them go. Even if they are charged and punished, who would dare to come to Xiangyang to be an official? Therefore, officials must have a suitable exit Ways. For example, if he is no longer suitable to be an official, he may put it forward himself or the government may ask him to find another job that suits him and can support his family."
Wang Ruohai said: "Fan Wenzhenggong once said that if you don't want to be a good minister, you must be a good doctor. Those who are officials must be literate. Even if they are not officials, they will not be hungry. Or they can buy hundreds of acres of land in the countryside. Still well off.”
Wang Xiaolie said: "Students cannot be officials and must either practice medicine or tell fortunes. In my opinion, most of these people's medical skills cannot be complimented. Considering the lives of the people, let's forget it. Not to mention fortune tellers, they are not serious in the first place. A way to survive. As for buying land in the countryside and becoming a landlord, it is inconsistent with our policy. Our policy, the general direction, is to ensure that farmers are mainly farmers, supplemented by hired customers. It is easy to buy land, but it is difficult to let scholars cultivate the land. It’s not easy anymore. So it’s up to us to find a way to give them a way out.”
Chen Qiudao said: "What should we do based on what Commander Jie sees?"
Wang Xiaolie said: "There are two ways. One is to be an official, and the other is to work in the industrial and commercial industry. But in the eyes of the world, the status of an official is too low, and I'm afraid not many people are willing to do it. So the most important thing is Yes, we should assign them to the industrial and commercial sectors."
Wang Ruohai asked: "Jie Shuai means that supply and marketing cooperatives, shopping malls and other places also use officials?"
Wang Xiaolie nodded: "The work here is actually similar to that of officials in many ways. But they make a lot of money, so it doesn't matter if they are given an official position. In the future, unsuitable officials will go to school to learn professional skills, and then they will Go to the industrial and commercial industries. We have many industries, and there is always one that is suitable. If so many industries fail, there is no need to say more and you can only go home."
Speaking of this, Wang Xiaolie said with emotion: "It is difficult to manage officials. If the management is strict, the officials will be dissatisfied and feel that they are being constrained in their work. If the management is loose, the people will be dissatisfied. It is so difficult to tighten the control appropriately! More importantly, officials are not so easy to do. Officials are easy to do because the government relaxes the requirements and sacrifices some of the people's interests to make officials easy to do. After several years of governance, I have found that there are very few officials who can really meet the requirements. . Some officials are obedient, but do not handle their work well. Some officials are capable, but always disobedient. There are very few who are both capable and obedient, and can handle their work in an orderly manner without getting into trouble."
"There are few people who are suitable to be officials. What should we do? Officials' remuneration is low, so people who don't want to be officials are not allowed to do so, and official positions are reserved for those who want to be officials? This approach doesn't work. Officials have great power, but how can they do so with low remuneration? ? They will get it themselves. Once corruption prevails, it will be difficult for the government to control it. Punishing corruption is easy to say, but it is impossible to do it if officials’ remuneration is not improved. The most terrifying thing at this time is not how much money corrupt officials have embezzled. But they occupy the seats, and the real talents are squeezed out, and in the end no one is available. Therefore, the salary of officials must be high, and the management must be strict. Officials who abide by the law must be proud, and officials who are corrupt and bend the law should be frightened. Once On the other hand, officials who are corrupt and bend the law enjoy a good life with impunity. Officials who abide by laws and regulations eat chaffy vegetables, how can they expect to achieve great governance in the world?"
Wang Ruohai said: "Shuai Jie is absolutely right. Compared with the previous dynasties, our Song Dynasty treats officials pretty well."
Wang Xiaolie shook his head: "It's still far from enough. The treatment of middle and high-level officials is good, but the life of lower-level officials is miserable. Not to mention the civil servants, many of whom have no salary, how can they be expected to serve the court? It is impossible to select outstanding talents as officials without paying them money. Therefore, the first one is that the government must first ensure that there is enough money and pay the salary. The second one is to collect the opinions of the people effectively. , to provide effective supervision of officials.”
Chen Qiudao and Wang Ruohai nodded together without saying anything.
Had a glass of wine. Wang Xiaolie smiled bitterly and said: "This is the truth. I also start from myself and strictly abide by my duties. But if we want to truly select talents and make up for the missing officials, it will not work for more than five years. And we must strictly abide by our duties. , can I persist for a lifetime? Even if I can persist for a lifetime, when I leave, will the subsequent officials be able to do it? Only God knows. This is what officialdom is about. If the top does well, the people below will naturally keep to themselves. Can’t the people above do it? Well, no matter how severe the punishment is, it will be useless. How difficult it is to start from yourself!"
Wang Ruohai said: "Everyone understands many things in the world, but many people find it difficult to do them by themselves."
Chen Qiudao nodded: "That's true. And it's hard to figure out how to do it right."
Wang Xiaolie said: "That's right. But it's precisely because it's difficult that we have to do it. Otherwise, what would we do in this world? Just be confused and happy for a while? With this opportunity, we must do something big. "
