Shi Huizhen's remarks are certainly not irrefutable. Many people here have received serious training in logic and debate, so it is not difficult to find loopholes.
The real trouble is that the historical facts she relies on are the most difficult to explain. After all, the Greeks have indeed declined step by step to their current situation, and their internal strife has also been throughout history. They are extremely well-known throughout the Mediterranean world and cannot be hidden even if they want to.
Everyone looked at each other for a while, and finally, a girl in Chinese clothes who was about the same age as Shi Huizhen asked: "These problems you mentioned are common in many other civilizations. How can we analyze that this is really caused by the Greek cultural tradition? question?"
"I'm really not good at analysis, but I don't think such a sophisticated method is needed for this problem." Shi Huizhen said: "There are many places where I haven't studied Greek culture."
"If you look at the Central Plains people, the Mongols, and the Turks, none of them have learned the knowledge of Ya Sheng. As a result, all the people who can fight are from their side. Even the early Romans were like this. This should be quite obvious, right? .”
"I heard from Theodora that the Greek cultural circle was the most powerful in the early days of the Eastern Empire. But I wonder, the system at that time was not what Ya Sheng and others idealized, right?"
"Greek culture has never been cut off in these two thousand years, and the Eastern Empire has actually become a Greek country. Are you understanding it wrong?" the girl corrected.
"But wasn't the direction of development at that time learned from the Persians?" Shi Huizhen pointed out: "Although it was a Greek country in name, the Romans had learned state-building from the Persians long before that. The Eastern Empire In the early days, the entire country, whether political or military organization, was increasingly aligned with the Persians."
"If you follow the Greek tradition, it is impossible to organize a big country. It is not difficult to understand." She shrugged.
"But even before the establishment of a great country, Greek civilization was still very glorious." The other party argued forcefully: "Until now, many people still believe that that was when Greek civilization was most prosperous."
"So prosperous, why did they surrender to Macedonia? Why were they plundered and massacred by the Celts?" Shi Huizhen asked: "The result of not having a big country is that a circle of barbarians can come and attack the autumn wind at will. This one has gone and that one has come, and for hundreds of years Without interruption. Can this be considered a good thing?"
"Civilization is glorious, but the people are gone." She spread her hands: "But what's the point of a civilization without people?"
"It doesn't matter if you don't understand history. Look at the Italians next door to us." She gave another example: "These people are also classic city-states, and they are indeed prosperous, but what's the use? They are just replacing the Alemanni barbarians. They are just guarding the treasury. The day the barbarians free their hands, they will all die."
"Now, even the barbarians themselves know that they must try to put an end to the bad habits of city-states operating independently and strengthen the court's management of them. England and France have done this, and it has indeed achieved results. You study every day, but you don't even know the politics of the barbarians. Even the wisdom is inferior. So are the barbarians too smart and cultured, or have you been poisoned too deeply and your brains have become messed up?"
"How can you say that people are inferior to barbarians?" Another guest found it difficult to accept: "Moreover, barbarians always rise quickly, but they also die quickly. In the long history, they may just be some 'accidents'. I I don’t think this example is of much significance.”
"Then let's just look at civilized people." Shi Huizhen disagreed: "Is Greece strong and prosperous, or is the Seris dynasty strong and prosperous?"
"Well……"
"Everyone has a long history, so we can see clearly. Over the past thousand years, too many things have happened, and everyone has experienced many tests, so the results are already obvious. Confucianism and Taoism civilization are the most important. Brilliant, the toughest, and the most powerful,” she said with conviction.
"They have a spirit of unification and a set of political ideals, so it is naturally easier for them to develop than Greek civilization. Isn't the result obvious? The Seris country will change dynasties after a while, like an immortal snake, letting itself go every time it sheds its skin. Bigger and stronger. The Greek civilization is just the opposite. It is like a pool of stagnant water. It has spent two thousand years in vain, but there has been no meaningful development, and finally it has fallen to the current situation." Shi Huizhen scratched her head: "I still think this is quite It’s easy to understand…”
"If the Central Plains region also had Greek civilization, it would have split into hundreds of city-states. In the constant civil war and invasion by foreign enemies, they would have been divided and annexed by nomads from all walks of life, and even Korea, Annan and so on. In later generations, they may be the Koreans Calling himself the successor of Seris, he is bragging about the glory of his ancestors. Isn't this kind of civilization ridiculous?"
"I think if you want to make Greece great again, don't worry about those scripts." She shook her head and suggested: "The greatest civilization is in the east. You can at least refer to it and change it."
"So, where is this gap, and what should it be?" Some people were really shaken.
"I don't know about that." Shi Huizhen said simply: "I'm not a teacher, you can only ask more knowledgeable people. Besides, you should be the one who knows your own questions best."
"Right, old bald man?" She turned around and started questioning Vlahos again.
"I don't agree with your point of view." Vlahos said dissatisfied.
"Then what's the use of telling me? You talk to the Ming Dynasty." Shi Huizhen said nonchalantly: "I'm just stating the facts to show that the Ming Dynasty is more prosperous than Greece. Which of you agrees and who opposes it?"
Vlahos had nothing to say at this time, so he had to turn back and use the previous topic: "Since we are here now, the Greek experience is more appropriate. Because regardless of success or failure, it is the combination of the previous people and the actual situation here. Situation, summarized experience, and then convey it to us. The so-called drama is just a performance using an intuitive and easy-to-understand situation."
"The reason why there is a drama "Medea" is not for entertainment, but because people at that time had really discovered these problems." He explained in detail: "If you read the script, it is not difficult to know that beauty Dia's actions are actually in line with the standards of traditional heroes. If she were a man, these actions would actually be in line with people's understanding of heroes at that time - including the killing of Jason's son, which was actually a relationship between heroes. After the covenant was broken, he killed the opponent's proton because of humiliation. In that era, this was not an uncommon thing. Even the Sun God recognized the rationality of the behavior and opposed Jason's subsequent revenge."
"So, this does not mean that we must condemn one civilization or elevate another, but it states a simple truth: different standards have different scopes of application. The successful experiences of other civilizations are not seen here. It has to be applied. Just like Medea’s actions, they look similar to those of heroes. But as a woman, she forcibly imitates male heroes, which will inevitably lead to all kinds of weird and crazy tragic results, giving people’s moral and order It’s a huge impact.”
"See, the core of the problem is not the heroic act itself, but the woman's attempt to make herself equal to the man." Vlahos concluded: "This is why I don't want you to wear a sword, and also mentioned the drama's The reason. In fact, it has nothing to do with the big principles you said."
"Then are you sure, is it the same problem as men, or is there something wrong with the hero standard itself?" Shi Huizhen didn't quite understand and questioned.
"It depends on your own choice. Anyway, let me remind you, it is considered as my best effort." Vlahos decisively stopped entangled with her: "If you insist on taking it, I won't care. The consequences in the future are up to you." Just bear it.”
"Let's leave it as it is." He took advantage of the situation and ended the topic forcefully: "Everyone, let's eat, let's eat!"
(End of chapter)
