Guo Kang didn't really care about this.
"The so-called Russians are actually not a group." He pointed out: "I think our biggest problem now is to forcibly classify them into one category. This is unrealistic."
"There can't be a few Russians who think that they are the same race, so we should treat them as the same race, right?" Guo Kang shook his head and said: "The Alemanni chiefs are still promoting themselves as the emperor of Rome. Are they also us? Of the same race?"
"Then what do you think...should be done?" Li Xuanying thought for a while and asked.
"I think the current management method is still too crude." Guo Kang said: "In the past, we were not strong enough to manage them, so we could only deal with them in a general way. Now we can't still do it like this, right? We know too little about them, so It’s impossible to do well if you go on.”
"If we take it seriously, even the name 'Oros Province' is problematic." He pointed out.
"I also know there is a problem. This place should be called...Du, Du Lu Ross." Li Xuanying tried hard to make her mouth tremble, but failed: "But I can't pronounce it. I haven't been able to say this thing since I was a child. "
"You think, how should we translate it?" He asked back: "The name Oros is really lazy, and I just used an 'oh' instead of the string of sounds. But even if we write down the local people's pronunciation directly, it can really Are they pronounced the same? I don’t believe it anyway, why don’t you try it yourself?”
"I think it's almost okay." Guo Kang hesitated for a moment and started to experiment: "Du, Du Lu... Du Lu Du Lu Luo... Du Luos..."
"Look, I'll just say it." Li Xuanying showed a nonchalant look: "It's not like I haven't tried it before. It's like this every time: doo-lu... doo-doo-do..."
"Dulu Ross... Du... Du Du Ross..." Guo Kang was a little anxious. In order to show that this was not impossible to pronounce, he continued to try.
"It's useless if you try again. After speaking Greek for so many years, I haven't learned this sound." Li Xuanying added: "Du Lu Du Lu... Look, I can't pronounce it."
"That's not right." Guo Kang was quite embarrassed: "Durrulu... Duuludulu..."
"Du Lu Du Lu..."
Several people nearby turned their heads and looked at them in surprise.
"Hey, hey." Shi's eldest son Shi Ke patted Guo Kang: "What are you two doing? Don't go crazy in front of the palace!"
"Well……"
"I'm not crazy, I'm not crazy." Shi Ke was a few years older than Li Xuanying. Li Xuanying had been timid about him since he was a child. He quickly waved his hand and said, "We are studying Chinese language."
"Look, let me tell you, this doesn't sound like what a serious person would say." He turned to Guo Kang and complained: "I feel so dumb."
"Maybe people are used to it." Guo Kang smoothed things over: "Look at the different languages here, they are all so... murmuring. It is normal for outsiders to pronounce it incorrectly."
"What do you mean we are wrong? I think it is them who are wrong. How can anyone pout before speaking?" Li Xuanying lost face and was very angry: "We must correct them. I think the Khan's court should issue regulations, the Russians Don't stick your tongue out when you talk."
Shi Ke glanced at him as if he were a fool, turned back, and was too lazy to pay attention to him.
"Then just pretend I didn't say anything." Guo Kang took the initiative to compromise: "I think Oros is pretty good."
"There is no way. This name must be written exactly according to the pronunciation of the locals. The name of the Russians is already ridiculously long. Add these inexplicable pronunciations in front of it, and how long it will be..." Li Xuanying agreed: " I think script writers don’t dare to write like this, otherwise the troupe manager will think that he is forcing the word count.”
Guo Kang could only nod in agreement.
The word Oros was probably invented by someone who couldn't quiver his tongue.
As for his time, the difference between this translation and the actual pronunciation was even greater.
Oros is a simulation of "Dulu Dulu Ross". In this era, these eastern Slavic city-states and principalities did call themselves "Dulu Dulu Rus", but later, they changed their names.
According to the word-making habits of the Greeks and Romans, nouns expressing regions were uniformly added with a suffix at the end of the word, turning into names like "XXXX". The "Russ" that the natives called themselves became "Rossia".
When Peter the Great came to power, in order to connect with Europe, this Greek/Roman term was used as the official name in diplomatic situations, so the country's name became "Dulu Dulu Lucia". After that, it was still used until his time.
As for which one is right between "Oros" and "Duludulu Lucia", it's actually hard to say. Because this country does have two sets of titles.
Later generations called the unified Russian country "Tsarist Russia", which is also a simplification.
The title Tsar originally came from Bulgaria, and it was either an "Emperor" or a Caesar. Simeon, the ruler of Bulgaria, forced the Byzantine regime to grant him this title through war, because his ultimate goal was to enter Constantinople and become emperor.
This move was not a new operation at the time. In theory, anyone could be the Roman emperor - the Armenians had already succeeded, and the Serbs would try it in the future.
However, Simeon failed to enter the city in the end and failed to become the Basileus of all Rome, so he had to stop at this step and become the Caesar of Bulgaria. This is also not surprising, because the regime at that time was different from the nation-states of later generations, and did not have clear boundaries. In theory, everyone can join the Roman system and obtain and use Roman titles. Therefore, this title has been passed down in Bulgaria.
Later, the Slavs further away also learned this term.
However, in the era of the rise of the Slavs, the power of Eastern Rome had been in decline, and the managers they were in direct contact with were the Mongols. So, although the term Caesar is used, its meaning has changed in the Slavic world.
In the literature of the time, the Golden Horde and the great khans of his various branches were also called tsars. Until modern times, the Crimean Khan was still called the Crimean Tsar in official documents of Russia, Poland and other countries.
Ivan IV even staged a performance of abdication: he first elected Moscow's puppet Qasim Khan as czar, and after more than half a year, Qasim Khan abdicated to him. Therefore, many later documents will regard the Qasim Dynasty as part of Tsarist Russia. Such back and forth makes people wonder whether the tsar is Roman or Mongolian...
The Rurik dynasty to which Ivan IV belonged later became extinct. After the war, the Romanov dynasty inherited the title of tsar. But the founding tsar of Romanov was only the nephew of Empress Ivan IV, probably similar to the blood relationship of Slavic King Mang. This resulted in the inherent lack of legitimacy of the Romanov family, which later caused a lot of trouble.
By the time of Peter I, he finally couldn't stand it anymore and decided to run away. He established a new capital, Petrograd, on the Gulf of Finland in the north, and used the European title of "Imperado", which was equivalent to creating a new legal system of his own. The name of the country should actually be "Lucia de Imperado".
From "Caesar of the Rus" to "Imperado of Lucia", they are actually two sets of things. As for which one is more important, it's really hard to say, because many times, including in official occasions, they use both.
The Ming Dynasty had almost no contact with this country, but the Qing Dynasty had contact very early. But the Qing Dynasty avoided this problem by directly calling the Russian ruler "Chahan Khan", which means "White Khan".
Later, the "White Khan" Romanov dynasty came to an end. The newly established Red Horde Khanate used a new set of legal principles. In this narrative, "Duludulu Lucia" is called an Uluth under the Red Horde Khanate.
But the Red Horde was also very unstable. In the early days, under the leadership of the powerful Yusuf Polo Timur Khan and others, the Khan's court was still very prestigious. But later, once the Great Khan weakened, it became increasingly difficult to maintain it. Not long after, the Red Horde Khanate also collapsed, and all the Uluses became independent and no longer recognized the authority of the Great Khan.
Which legal system they belong to now, I guess they themselves don't know clearly. It is estimated that no one has the leisure to worry about word selection for translation just yet.
