"What wings does Ye He have? Ye He originally has no wings, but the tribes that Ye He goes to as a trader can be regarded as Ye He's wings to a certain extent."
Gao pragmatically spread his hands: "The Heart School regards the nobles of the capital as my wings. Is it because I am more noble than those princes, or am I still the minister of the imperial court and can take control of the five houses at any time? Obviously? no.
The reason why the nobles of the capital are regarded as my wings is simply because the Beiyang Maritime Trade Alliance is dominated by me. After these years of development, the nobles of the capital don’t even have much land left in their hands. Except for their own mansions, some villas, shops, etc., most of the rest of their belongings have been invested in the fleet and maritime trade with me. among.
To put it bluntly, if I go crazy one day and issue an order not to let their ships fly my Jinghua Shujian flag, all these princes and marquises who have retired from the country will have to come to my house to cry. I cried so hard that my heart was broken. Do you think in this case, do they count as my wings? "
Liu Xin heard him say that those princes and marquises would come to his house and cry "heartbroken" because of his words. It seemed that the image was too strong, and she couldn't help but laugh out loud.
But after she finished laughing, she shook her head slightly: "I don't deny that you have such power, but Jinghua and Ye He are different. Jinghua is at the absolute core of the Beiyang Sea Trade Alliance. Anyone can be missing from this alliance, but only if you are missing... You can't play anymore if you don't have Jinghua.
Although Ye He can be said to be the strongest commercially in Jurchen, Jurchen has not reached the point where it cannot function without it. The fact is that the various trades of the Jurchens cannot be carried out without the imperial edict, which means that they cannot be carried out without the Ming Dynasty. The end point of any trade by the Jurchens is the Ming Dynasty.
Therefore, it can also be said that the Ming Dynasty hoped that whoever was the most powerful Jurchen commercial chief would be able to make him the number one. This is not difficult for Ming Dynasty - just give it an edict. "
Gao pragmatic smiled and said: "You can't say that. To become the most powerful Jurchen trading chief, you still have to have location advantage as a prerequisite. Look at Hada, Yehe, or the Jianshe who rose up later in history. States, their characteristics are obvious, that is, they directly border the Ming Dynasty, and there is a place with relatively convenient transportation as a place for mutual trade.
Hada and Yehe had Kaiyuan North and South Passes, and although Jianzhou was a little short, they also had Fushun Passes. Speaking of which, the history of their development is a bit like the great voyages of Europeans. The first ones to blaze a trail were Hada and Yehe, just like the pioneers of great voyages were Portugal and Spain. Later, the real strongest player was Jianzhou. Corresponds to Britain in Europe.
In Liaodong, Jianzhou, as a rising star, overthrew the old strong chiefs Hada and Ye He, and in Europe, Britain, as a rising star, overturned Spain and the Netherlands. Sometimes I think about it, there seems to be some inevitable factors here..."
Liu Xin waved her hands repeatedly: "Don't talk about Europe first. Let's analyze the affairs in Liaodong clearly."
"Okay, okay, it's all up to you, let's talk about Liaodong." Gao Pingshi laughed and nodded: "I said Ye He can use other Jurchen tribes as wings. This 'other' has a certain direction, at least to Jianzhou. and Hada are excluded.”
Liu Xin nodded: "I know that your consistent view is that although there are many Jurchen tribes, only Hada, Yehe and Jianzhou have the chance to become the most powerful chieftains."
"That's right." Gao Pragmatic affirmed, and then continued: "For other Jurchen tribes to rise, they first lack a necessary condition, that is, they are too far away from the Ming Dynasty or have inconvenient transportation, which leads to the obstruction of their civilization process. , it’s too slow.
If these three companies want to rise, they will naturally have advantages, but in terms of the way they rise, their choices are different. According to historical experience, Hada and Ye He took different paths, and Jianzhou was even more different.
Hada's choice was to rely on the support of the Ming Dynasty and to be a godson wholeheartedly; Ye He's choice was to basically obey the Ming Dynasty but maintain a certain distance. Their real source of strength was to do business everywhere and maintain their position as a powerful trading power among the Jurchens. Always have an economic advantage.
Both of these methods can indeed rise, and to be honest, they are more in line with their own location advantages. If Jianzhou had not been established...or if Nurhaci had not appeared in Jianzhou, the most powerful Jurchen chieftain would basically have been born between the two of them.
But with the emergence of Nurhachi in Jianzhou, the whole situation changed. Nurhachi's choice was to be respectful to the Ming Dynasty on the surface, but in fact it started a unification war in the Jurchens. Don't underestimate this skill, or simply think that he just likes to fight and conquer.
I very much suspect that Nurhachi has understood a truth: if Jianzhou wants to rise under the suppression of trade at the North and South Passes, it must break away from a simple trade war and expand this struggle.
But how to expand it? Ming's attitude towards the conflict between Nurhaci and the North and South Passes was very clear, and it had always tried to protect the North and South Passes. Therefore, if Nurhaci took the initiative to provoke a war against the North and South Passes, it would most likely anger Ming, which he could not bear.
Therefore, Nurhachi chose to "encircle the points and provide reinforcements", first conquering some of the tribes closest to him and having business dealings with Ye He, and then turning around to conquer places a little further away. During this period, Nurhachi did not take the initiative to attack Hada and Ye He in exchange for Ming Dynasty's understanding.
But as mentioned just now, the first Jurchen trade leader after the decline of Hada was Ye He. Nurhaci continued to conquer Ye He's business partners, and then severed the local trade relationship with Ye He. In this way, the goods that Ye He could exchange increased. The less.
This is obviously intolerable. Just as there must be a war between Britain and the Netherlands and Spain at sea, after the decline of the Spanish navy, it is also true that there must be a war between the British and Dutch navies.
Nurhachi continued to conquer the origin of Yehe's goods, and naturally the goods that Yehe could trade with the Ming Dynasty became less and less. In order to prevent this trend from spreading, Ye He had to take the initiative to attack Nurhaci.
At this moment, according to Daming's consistent style, it was obviously inconvenient to intervene, so he had to wait for them to decide the winner and then see how to deal with it. But Ming Dynasty was very unlucky. At such a critical moment, Ming Dynasty started fighting with the Japanese in North Korea, and Nurhachi had the opportunity to fight Ye He without interference..."
How could Liu Xin still not understand what Gao Pragmatic said at this time? She immediately said: "So what you actually mean is that after Nurhachi was warned by the Ming Dynasty, although he would definitely not take the initiative to provoke a war against Yehe and Hada, he could still conquer Jianzhou first as in history The remaining tribes then began to go north to find trouble with Changbaishan, Wula, Huifa and other tribes.
In this process, sooner or later Ye He will be unable to bear it any longer, and in the end he can only take the initiative to attack Nurhachi. What you call cutting off Ye He's wings refers to these tribes that will be targeted for conquest by Nurhaci sooner or later. "
Gao Pragmatic nodded and said: "Yes, what Nurhachi did is 'attack him and save him'. Unless Ye He is willing to act like a fool and watch Nurhachi occupy the origin of his goods, otherwise he will have to use force to save him."
When he said this, Liu Xin half added: "But found that he couldn't beat Nurhachi?"
"Yes, that's right." Gao Pragmatic nodded: "By the time things developed to this point, Nurhaci should have conquered many tribes, and at least unified the five tribes in Jianzhou. The most important thing is that during this period, Nurhachi's The army has been fully trained, and Ye He did not fight at all during this period."
Liu Xin sighed softly: "This is actually a case of being prepared and attacking unprepared. It is nothing more than Nurhachi deliberately 'giving' the initiator of the war to Ye He, just like talking with nothing."
Hand talk is like playing Go. In modern Go, black stones are played first, but not in ancient times. At least in ancient China, white stones were played first. This rule has been maintained for about two thousand years. This can be confirmed in the Go books of the Song Dynasty.
It is the earliest extant rare book about Go in China and the earliest extant chess record in China. The book clearly records that the beginning of the ancient Chinese Go game was that both sides placed two chess pieces, or seats, on each of the four star positions to determine that the black and white sides each occupied two corners. The order of chess moves is in the order of white chess first and black chess second.
As for the black stone playing first, it is actually a product of the later reform in accordance with Japanese Go rules. As for the specific reasons, I am too lazy to go into details here.
Gao Pragmatic pondered for a moment and continued: "I think given the current situation, Nurhachi will probably still make such a decision, so he will still seek to unify the state first, then conquer Changbai Mountain and other tribes, and finally form a siege on Yehe and Hada momentum."
“理由就是努尔哈赤在你的威胁之下不敢直接针对叶赫，而叶赫此番被察哈尔一顿胖揍，也需要时间来舔舐伤口？”
Gao pragmatic nodded and said: "That's probably the case."
Liu Xin thought for a while, frowned and said, "Do you want to change this situation?"
"Uh..." Gao Pingshi hesitated for a moment and shook his head slowly: "This is not a matter of whether I think about it or not. The key is whether it is within my ability."
Liu Xin frowned: "I don't think this is beyond our capabilities. I know you want to say that now the Ming Dynasty is preparing for the war with Chahar first, but it doesn't matter to others that Mongolia is the number one enemy, but you don't It should be clear who the real enemy is.
Nurhaci is far more dangerous than Chahar. He has not yet risen. If you don't nip Jianzhou in the bud at this time, do you have to wait until the situation becomes too difficult to control before taking action? "
"You can't regard chance as inevitable." Gao Pragmatic said sternly: "I don't think it is inevitable that the Tatars can enter the customs in history. Especially if you don't forget what I said to you before, the reason why the Later Jin Dynasty was able to gradually In mastering the strategic advantage, Huang Taiji is the most critical figure, not Nurhachi - if he lives a few more years, Houjin himself may collapse."
"So you don't reject Meng Guzhezhe, not because of anything else, but because in your heart you still feel that it is safest to prevent Huang Taiji from appearing?" Liu Xin asked Gao Pragmatically, looking at him.
"It's okay if you want to understand it this way." Gao Pingshi said calmly: "I don't need to leave such a big hidden danger for myself and Ming Dynasty. If Huang Taiji can't appear, I won't regret the loss of an opponent - —I’m not a jerk, wouldn’t it be a little less troublesome?”
But Liu Xin's brows did not loosen. She still asked: "I always feel that this assumption is very problematic. How can you ensure that without this Huang Taiji, there will be no other Huang Taiji? What if there is the so-called 'inertia of history' ', there is still a figure like Huang Taiji among Nurhachi's sons, so what should we do? Didn't you say before that there seems to be no such a powerful Burihatu in the original history. "
"This..." Gao Pragmatic couldn't help but hesitate when she said this, frowning and said: "The so-called inertia of history or the self-correction of history, these are beyond my control, and I can't be sure. Will it appear?
But the current problem is that national policy is national policy, and the most taboo thing is to change it overnight. It is not something that will be changed just as soon as I say I want to change it. All plans and purposes of the imperial court revolve around Chahar. If I suddenly propose to destroy Nurhachi first, not to mention the entire country, at least the towns in Jiubian, the Ministry of Household Affairs, and the Ministry of War must make corresponding adjustments immediately. The cost will be too high. "
This is a problem. Liu Xin hesitated and said, "But didn't the imperial court also send troops to northern Liaoning this time? They even sent troops in winter. I don't think the problem is big."
Gao Pragmatic rolled his eyes decisively: "You don't think the problem is big, that's because I am the Minister of Household Affairs. Not to mention anything else, Guang Liaodong Salt Farm had to pay dividends in advance for this battle, and used it to continue to expand. A sum of silver produced was transferred to the capital in advance as net profit, and was used as reward silver after the war and to supplement Liaodong's armament consumption."
Liu Xin was speechless for a moment, and said angrily: "Well... why don't you continue to use your talents, try to get some more money, settle the matter in Liaodong, and then go back to deal with Chahar?"
"Not good." Gao Pragmatic shook his head and said: "Nurhaci does not dare to directly oppose me now, and I still have to prepare for aiding North Korea and fighting against the Japanese in about five years. Nurhachi is also one of the forces I plan to use. Instead of I am now wasting time and effort to eliminate him in advance, it is better to let him bleed in North Korea, this is to maximize the benefits."
Liu Xin couldn't help but rolled her eyes: "You really regard everything as business, and you even treat other people's capital as your own. Don't you worry that Nurhachi will not go to North Korea as you planned five years later? Is it bleeding?”
Gao pragmatically spread his hands: "If you want to say that, then the topic comes back: If Ming Dynasty dealt with Chahar before that, why should Nurhaci reject me?"
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