After hearing what Funing Marquis said, Fan Wencheng looked directly at Wei Guogong.
Just listen to him say: "If the old Duke thinks like Funing Hou, then I will have to doubt whether this rash visit is right."
"What do you mean!"
Hou Ning heard the sarcasm in Fan Wencheng's words and became angry.
"Don't get me wrong, Lord Marquis. Although I, the Qing Dynasty, don't particularly know how much strength Ming Dynasty still has, I can guess a thing or two." Fan Wencheng said.
Upon hearing this, Marquis Funing gasped twice and said nothing.
Ming Jun did stretch his hips. Although he didn't want to admit it, he had to admit that this was a fact.
"If the Qing Dynasty looks down upon me, the Ming Dynasty, why should we form an alliance with the Ming Dynasty? We might as well form an alliance with the Tiger Character Banner." Wei Guogong said with a smile.
Funing Hou also reacted.
Yes, if the Ming Dynasty had no redeeming qualities and the Qing Dynasty was not a fool, how could it possibly rush to form an alliance with the Ming Dynasty?
Fan Wencheng looked at Wei Guogong with a smile and said: "Because the Qing Dynasty wanted to win over the Ming Dynasty and did not want to see the Ming Dynasty destroyed in the hands of tiger thieves."
"The words are very nice, but if you say that the Qing Dynasty is trying to help the Ming Dynasty, I don't believe a word of it." Wei Guogong shook his head and said immediately, "The Ming Dynasty and the Qing Dynasty have never been friends, not even those things about the Qing Dynasty in Liaodong. , how could Tiger Flag take advantage of him?"
Hearing this, Fan Wencheng said: "What Taizu of our dynasty did in Liaodong was completely forced by local officials. If it weren't for the persecution of those corrupt officials, Taizu of our dynasty might still be living a life of fishing and hunting for Liaodong with his people. The days of farming and weaving.”
"My lord does not want to argue with you here about a dead man." Wei Guogong said, "Since you, Fan Wencheng, are an envoy sent by the Qing Dynasty, you want to form an alliance with the Ming Dynasty, but my lord does not see any benefit to the Ming Dynasty. , so why did the Ming Dynasty form an alliance with the Qing Dynasty, but instead offended the Tiger Flag?"
Fan Wencheng knew that if he couldn't say something that the Duke of Wei in front of him valued, he might not be able to support the alliance between the Qing Dynasty and the Ming Dynasty.
Thinking of this, he said: "The Tiger Character Banner is to destroy the Ming Dynasty and replace it. Although we, the Qing Dynasty, have been enemies of the Ming Dynasty for many years, we only want to stay in Liaodong and have no ambitions for the Ming Dynasty. At one point, an alliance between the Qing Dynasty and the Ming Dynasty would be far better than the peace talks between the Ming Dynasty and the Tiger Character Banner."
"Maybe I didn't have ambition before, but it's hard to say now." Wei Guogong didn't believe that the Qing Dynasty had no ambition to encroach on the Ming Dynasty.
If possible, he believed that the Qing army would definitely go south to deal with the Ming Dynasty.
"No, I, the Qing Dynasty, do not covet the Ming Dynasty at all." Fan Wencheng said, "Old Duke may not believe it, but after I explain it, I will definitely believe what I say."
"you say!"
"Just one point can prove that the Qing Dynasty has no ambitions for the Ming Dynasty, because the Qing Dynasty does not have many people, not as many as the Mongols. Even if it cares about the colorful world of the Central Plains, it has no ability to do so."
When Wei Guogong heard this, his eyes narrowed.
He has always been thinking about the power of the Qing army, and he has indeed forgotten that the Qing Dynasty was dominated by Jurchens, and the number of Jurchens was limited and could not be compared with the Mongols who once ruled the Central Plains.
Seeing the expression on Wei Guogong's face, Fan Wencheng knew that he believed it, so he continued: "This alone is enough to prove that the Qing Dynasty is sincerely allied with the Ming Dynasty and helps the Ming Dynasty deal with the Tiger Flag."
"No, this only proves that the Qing Dynasty does not have the ability to take over the Central Plains. It does not mean that you have no ambitions. Besides, this has nothing to do with the peace talks between the Ming Dynasty and the Tiger Banner." Wei Guogong said.
Fan Wencheng saw that he was still planning to have peace talks with the Tiger Character Banner, and said directly: "The reason why the Tiger Character Banner sent people to negotiate with the Ming Dynasty was because they were worried about the alliance between the Qing Dynasty and the Ming Dynasty. Although the Tiger Character Banner now occupies half of the Ming Dynasty, it suddenly It takes time to fully digest such a big place, and this time is the time for them to negotiate peace with the Ming Dynasty. When the Tiger Character Banner completely controls the northern provinces, it will be the time when they send troops to conquer the Ming Dynasty. It seems that negotiating peace with the Tiger Character Banner is unintentionally seeking the skin of the tiger."
"According to your opinion, we should form an alliance with the Qing Dynasty, so that we can be safe? Will the Tiger Character Banner send troops south in advance?" Wei Guogong asked.
Fan Wencheng said: "If the Ming Dynasty had the help of the Qing Dynasty, it would not be so easy for the Tiger Character Banner to go south to deal with the Ming Dynasty. Moreover, if the Qing Dynasty and the Ming Dynasty attack from the north and south, the Tiger Character Banner can be destroyed with one hand."
As he spoke, he made a downward movement with his hands.
"I believe what I said." Wei Guogong smiled, "It's a pity that the Ming Dynasty has enough self-preservation and is unable to make the Northern Expedition, and it is impossible for the Ming Dynasty to attack the Tiger Character Banner from the north and the south. On the contrary, peace talks with the Tiger Character Banner are more suitable for the moment. Ming dynasty."
Seeing that Fan Wencheng had said so much, Wei Guogong still insisted on peace talks with the Tiger-Charactered Banner, and persuaded him again: "This is what the old Duke really did to push the Ming Dynasty into the abyss. The Tiger-Charactered Banner cannot stay there forever." With Ming Dynasty right under his nose, it will be a matter of time before he takes action."
"Mr. Fan may not have heard clearly. My Duke said that the Ming Dynasty has more than enough to protect itself but does not have the extra strength to go to the Northern Expedition. Of course, if the Qing Dynasty wants to go south to attack the Tiger Flag, I, the Ming Dynasty, will strongly support it." Wei Guogong said.
Seeing this, Fan Wencheng understood that his trip was in vain.
"Since I have made my decision, I won't bother you anymore." Fan Wencheng stood up and left.
In his opinion, it is useless to continue to stay. It is better to spend more time on the civil servants of the Ming Dynasty.
Compared with Wei Guogong, who was incompetent in military affairs, those civil servants were more willing to form an alliance with the Qing Dynasty to deal with the Tiger Flag.
After Fan Wencheng left, Hou Ning said: "I was almost persuaded by him and almost agreed to form an alliance with the Qing Dynasty to deal with the Tiger Flag."
"It's normal to be persuaded, because what he said is almost always the truth." Wei Guogong said.
Upon hearing this, Marquis Funing shrank his eyes and frowned, and said, "The Duke also thinks that the Tiger Character Banner will send troops south to deal with the Ming Dynasty?"
"This is natural!" Wei Guogong said, "Since the first unification of the world, emperors of all dynasties have wanted to unify the country, and Liu Heng of the Tiger Flag is the same."
Funing Hou asked with a surprised look on his face: "Then why do we still have peace talks with the Tiger Flag? It would be more beneficial to the Ming Dynasty to form an alliance with the Qing Dynasty directly."
"It's good for the Ming Dynasty, but it doesn't mean it's good for us. What's more, how can the Ming Dynasty cooperate with the Qing Dynasty's Northern Expedition? You don't really think that the Qing Dynasty behind Fan Wencheng has good intentions and wants to use troops against the Tiger Flag for the Ming Dynasty!" Wei Guogong looked at Fu. Ning Hou said.
