Originally, Fan Wencheng wanted to argue with the people in front of him to see whether the Qing Dynasty needed the Ming Dynasty, or the Ming Dynasty needed the Qing Dynasty more.
But now that Qian Qianyi interrupted, he couldn't hold on to it.
After all, he came to Ming Dynasty for the sake of cooperation between Qing Dynasty and Ming Dynasty. There was no need to offend each other because of some verbal disputes.
"Last time, the Qing Dynasty and the Ming Dynasty were prepared to cooperate and send troops from the north and the south to attack the tiger bandits. Unfortunately, due to some reasons, it was not possible in the end. I came here this time in the hope that the Qing Dynasty and the Ming Dynasty can continue the cooperation from the last time. Let’s deal with the tiger thieves together.” Fan Wencheng looked at Qian Qianyi.
In the past, Qian Qianyi was only the chief minister of the cabinet, but now he has become the auxiliary minister and the chief minister of the cabinet. It will be much easier to have the support of the other party in the cooperation between the Qing and Ming Dynasties.
Although he kept emphasizing that Ming Dynasty needed Qing Dynasty's help, he knew in his heart that Qing Dynasty also needed Ming Dynasty's help, otherwise Huang Taiji would not send him to Ming Dynasty again.
Qian Qianyi hesitated for a moment and said: "Last time, because of your breach of trust, many ministers in the court were disgusted with the Qing Dynasty. If you want to get the Ming Dynasty to cooperate with the Qing Dynasty again, even I, the senior minister, can't do it."
Qu Shishu on the side looked at Qian Qianyi with a puzzled expression.
Before Fan Wencheng arrived, his teacher was still discussing with them how to cooperate with the Qing Dynasty. Unexpectedly, his attitude changed soon after.
On the contrary, Gao Hongtu seemed to have already anticipated the change in Qian Qianyi's attitude. The old man was sitting on his seat, just looking at Fan Wencheng constantly.
After hearing Qian Qianyi's words, Fan Wencheng narrowed his eyes slightly.
Before coming to see Qian Qianyi, he had already figured out Qian Qianyi's attitude on whether to unite with the Qing Dynasty to fight against the Tiger Flag, otherwise he would not have come directly to him.
Unexpectedly, Qian Qianyi's attitude towards the Qing Dynasty was completely beyond his expectation.
However, he reacted on second thought.
What Qian Qianyi said further proved that he wanted to cooperate with the Qing Dynasty. Just like selling something, the real buyer is the one who lowers the price.
Thinking of this, he felt confident.
As long as Qian Qianyi still wants to cooperate with the Qing Dynasty, his purpose of coming to the Ming Dynasty this time can be achieved.
"It seems that Mr. Qian Ge has forgotten what I said." Fan Wencheng said with a smile.
"Is there any?" Qian Qianyi asked back.
Fan Wencheng said: "How long can the Ming Dynasty last in the hands of tiger thieves without the Qing Dynasty taking action? I wonder if Mr. Qian Ge has thought about this?"
"Mr. Fan insists that the tiger thieves will attack Daming first." Qian Qianyi said.
"Is not it?"
Fan Wencheng asked Qian Qianyi with a smile.
"Even if the tiger thieves attack the Ming Dynasty, Mr. Fan, don't forget that the south is different from the north. The south is covered with water networks. It is not as easy for the tiger thieves to capture the southern provinces as it is in the north. Besides, I, the Ming Dynasty, are not without control. The army has no generals." Qian Qianyi pointed out the geographical advantage of the Ming Dynasty.
Hearing this, Fan Wencheng nodded in agreement and said: "What Mr. Qian Ge said makes sense. Even if it were the Qing Dynasty, the water network here in the south would be in trouble. But Mr. Qian Ge, don't forget. The thing is, the tiger thieves are different from the Qing Dynasty. They have their own navy. The water network here is a bad thing for others, but it may not be a bad thing for the tiger thieves."
As soon as these words came out, Qian Qianyi's expression changed.
In the past, he did think about using the water network in the south to stop the Tiger Banner's army. Even if the Ming Dynasty could not go north to regain the lost territory, it might be able to persist for another hundred years like the small court of the Song Dynasty that moved south.
But he forgot that the Tiger Character Flag was not the Jin Dynasty at that time, nor was it the Meng Yuan Dynasty, but it also had the existence of a powerful navy. I am afraid that the Ming Dynasty would not be able to be like the small court of the Song Dynasty.
Seeing that his reminder had an effect, Fan Wencheng added: "The Ming Dynasty needs the help of the Qing Dynasty. Only with everyone's cooperation can we solve the problem of tiger thieves and the Ming Dynasty have the opportunity to regain the lost provinces."
Qian Qianyi glanced at Fan Wencheng without saying anything, his eyes showing deep thought.
"Why does Mr. Fan think that the Ming Dynasty must need the Qing Dynasty? Could it be that the Ming Dynasty cannot regain its lost land by its own ability? Even if the Ming Dynasty loses several provinces, your Qing Dynasty cannot compare with it." Qu Shishu said contemptuously said.
In his eyes, a bitter and cold place like Liaodong could not be compared with the southern provinces occupied by the Ming Dynasty.
Even before the Ming Dynasty lost the northern provinces, the southern provinces were still the essence of the Ming Dynasty, bringing more than half of the tax revenue to the Ming Dynasty every year.
Fan Wencheng turned to look at Qu Shiqi and said calmly: "Qu Fucheng seems to have forgotten that before the Ming Dynasty lost the northern provinces, it was helpless against the Qing Dynasty. Instead, every time we fought, we lost troops and generals, and in the end we could only shrink back." I dare not show my face in the city, and now that the northern provinces have been lost, why does Qu Fucheng think that he is now my opponent in the Qing Dynasty?"
"you!"
Qu Fucheng choked up and pointed at Fan Wencheng, but couldn't say anything.
Fan Wencheng withdrew his gaze from Qu Shishu, looked at Qian Qianyi again, and said: "As military strategists say, when facing enemies, they often adopt the strategy of making friends at a distance and attacking at close range. The tiger thief is the one closest to the Ming and Qing Dynasties, and the Ming Dynasty and Qing Dynasty. The common enemy of the Qing Dynasty, so the Ming Dynasty and the Qing Dynasty are natural allies. Only by eliminating the tiger thieves, whether it is the Ming Dynasty or the Qing Dynasty, can the peace of the past be restored."
"What do you want from the Qing Dynasty?" Qian Qianyi asked.
Fan Wencheng smiled when he heard this.
He said: "My Majesty sincerely cooperates with the Ming Dynasty, so the requirements are not high. As long as the Ming Dynasty used to have a few border towns, it does not even need the Ming Dynasty to take action on these border towns. The Qing Dynasty can seize them from the tiger thieves themselves." Go to these places."
"Impossible." Qian Qianyi said, "It is impossible for the Ming Dynasty to hand over its border town to you. You and I both know that once the tiger thieves are eliminated, the Qing Dynasty and the Ming Dynasty will become rivals again."
Fan Wencheng shook his head slightly and said: "Before coming to the Ming Dynasty, His Majesty told me personally that in the future the Qing Dynasty is willing to form a brotherly country with the Ming Dynasty and will not invade each other."
"Stop saying this. The place that the Qing occupies now is the territory of the Ming Dynasty. You were originally the rebels of the Ming Dynasty. You are no different from tiger thieves. What qualifications do you have to become a brother country with the Ming Dynasty?" Qian Qianyi Said with a look of disdain.
Just say directly that the Qing Dynasty is worthy of forming a brotherly country with the Ming Dynasty.
Fan Wencheng, who heard this, did not show any signs of anger and said: "Liaodong was the place where my ancestors lived before, but it was later forcibly occupied by the Ming Dynasty. Now my Majesty has only taken back the land of my ancestors. How can we do that?" It is said to be the territory of the Ming Dynasty. Mr. Qian Ge is also a person who has read history books thoroughly. I believe there is no need for me to explain, and you should understand that what I am saying is true."