But not only did we provide technology and people, we also provided money. Twenty percent is not much. Song Chunming retorted.
Wu Hao, on the other hand, smiled slightly and said: "We have also provided technology, people, and even money.
There are many companies that want to join this project this time, so we don’t have many shares, so we can’t give you that many shares.
Of course, unless you can invest enough funds, you can hold more shares. "
Hearing Wu Hao's words, Song Chunming shook his head. They are just scientific research institutions, and they need to apply for the required funds from above. Even if they apply, they still don’t know whether they can apply for it.
Even if the application is received, it is impossible to come up with more than one billion. It’s not that there’s no money, it’s that it doesn’t comply with relevant regulations.
Besides, this project is obviously initiated by the private sector. It is best to try not to let state-owned capital invest in it, otherwise there may be some troubles. For example, if their lithography machines and chips are to be exported abroad in the future, if they have this background, they will easily be opposed by some countries.
Of course, this is not fear, and there is no need to be afraid. No matter what happens in private, at least you must maintain a good image on the surface.
This is an effective method used by Western capitalists to dress themselves up as elegant gentlemen, but privately they are sneaky, sanctimonious bastards.
Hearing what Wu Hao said, Song Chunming was a little discouraged and said, "Then how much can you give me?"
Wu Hao also slightly stretched out two fingers and said: "Two percent."
What! Song Chunming, and even the other personnel from the Microelectronics Research Institute sitting around him, were surprised, and then they all showed angry expressions.
Wu Hao, you guys are not sincere anymore. Song Chunming said with a serious face. He did not call him Xiao Wu this time, but directly called him by his name. It could be seen that he was also a little angry.
Wu Hao, on the other hand, smiled and shook his head and said: "On the contrary, I think we are sincere. Let's not talk about anything else. Let's talk about the value of these two percent shares. Do you know how much it is worth.
This project started with an investment of 10 billion, but from this perspective, this 2% is worth 200 million. This does not include subsequent additional investment. Our initial plan is that the entire project will be between 30 billion and 50 billion. It includes the entire industrial chain including photolithography machine manufacturing factories and upstream related component factories, as well as several downstream chip foundries.
Preliminary estimates suggest that when fully completed, the annual output value will exceed tens of billions.
In this way, do you think that 2% is still less? "
After hearing his words, everyone present could not help but open their mouths.
this……
Between 30 billion and 50 billion, the annual output value is over tens of billions, so these two percent are very valuable.
When they thought of this, many people's eyes became hot.
But Song Chunming snorted coldly, then glared at Wu Hao and said: "What a big cake. The project hasn't been finalized yet, but you just made this cake so huge.
Aren't you afraid that if the cake is too big, it will burst? "
Haha, Wu Hao said with a smile: "Although it is a bit exaggerated, it is true. This is what we have discussed carefully. Besides, if a project like this is not worth tens of billions, how can we see any movement.
What we lack is not just a photolithography machine, but the entire industry related to the photolithography machine and even the entire chip chain.
We are very optimistic about this field and are willing to invest in it. "
oh? When Song Chunming heard this, he looked at him with a playful smile and said, "Don't think I don't know, but you have already developed the core technology of photonic chips. At this time, you are fooling so many people into investing in traditional lithography machines. What are you kidding about? What a crazy idea."
Wu Hao was not surprised that Song Chunming knew this. Because he had already mentioned the photonic chip technology in advance at a new technology seminar, and presented it at the previous military-civilian technology integration exchange exhibition in Beijing.
As a key research institution and expert in the field of domestic microelectronics and chips, Song Chunming knows this is not surprising.
So thinking of this, Wu Hao nodded and shook his head and said: "Photonic chip technology has made progress, but it cannot completely replace existing chips.
First of all, although the core technology of photonic chips has achieved a breakthrough, it does not mean that photonic chips can be developed immediately.
Even if it is developed, it cannot be put into use immediately. Even if it is put into use, it will not be popularized in a short time.
I'm afraid it will take a long time to popularize such a cutting-edge technology that spans the ages.
Therefore, during this period of time, traditional chips will still occupy the mainstream market. "
After hearing what he said, Song Chunming and others couldn't help but nodded, agreeing with his statement.
Indeed, photonic chips and photonic computers will be a new generation of computer technology. If it is developed, it must be used in important areas first and be used as a strategic resource. It is impossible to popularize it in a short time.
Seeing everyone nodding, Wu Hao continued: "Secondly, the manufacturing technology of photonic chips is not yet mature. Even if it is developed, it will probably take some time to explore, improve and optimize it to create a photonic chip that can be used commercially.
Secondly, the structure of photonic chips makes it difficult to apply them to microelectronic devices.
I don’t know the future, but for now, it’s basically impossible to put it into a traditional smartphone or new smart AR glasses.
For now, even if this kind of photonic chip is developed, the most suitable ones are large supercomputers and large server groups and hosts.
In addition to this, its application is also restricted by energy consumption and various packaging processes.
Moreover, the new products we create are not only core processors, but also other chips. These chips cannot all be suitable for this kind of photonic chip, right?
How can you kill a chicken with a bull's knife? "
You kid always have so many reasons. Song Chunming leaned on the chair and said helplessly.
Wu Hao, on the other hand, smiled and shook his head: "This is not a reason, but a fact. Photonic chips are good, but they are not omnipotent. They also have their limitations.
Secondly, like I said before. Even the core technology of photonic chips has achieved breakthroughs. It is basically impossible to develop it and put it into commercial use in a short period of time.
Therefore, traditional chips will remain mainstream for a long time to come. And even if photonic chips begin to be commercially promoted and popularized, traditional chip technology will not be eliminated.
It is precisely after seeing this that everyone is so interested in this project and does not hesitate to invest a lot of money.
Let’s not talk about other things, let’s talk about these familiar bosses, their vision is always worthy of trust. "
