But he could hold it back, but Yan Xiong couldn't. He put down Kuai Zi, pointed at Kong Chuan and said, "I don't know what is rude about Zhou etiquette. I only know that in our ordinary civilian homes, the whole family sits together to eat. Only you so-called nobles do these vain things. We commoners don't have much food at home. If we continue to eat according to what you say, everyone will starve to death." Zhao Kuo nodded after hearing this. Yan Xiong's words are rough but not rough. This is why Confucius said
"Rituals are not suitable for common people." It's not that Confucius looked down on common people, but that 'rituals' are not suitable for common people. When a person can't even eat enough to eat, do you talk to him about etiquette?
Isn't that nonsense? If they follow Zhou etiquette, they are indeed violating etiquette now. But...haven't the old Zhao family done many things that were against etiquette?
Didn’t you see that even Yu Xin didn’t speak?
"Rites are first of all meant to serve people, not to restrain human nature. Besides, Zhou Rites are already backward and should have been reformed long ago." Xunzi said nonchalantly.
In his opinion, any notion of 'restraining oneself and restoring etiquette' is nonsense. Different systems in different eras must be based on reality.
"Heretics have always maintained that human nature is inherently evil. Why do they say today that etiquette should not restrain human nature? Shouldn't evil human nature be restrained?" Kong Chuan seized on Xunzi's loophole and immediately counterattacked.
Zhao Kuo complained secretly on the side. He never expected that these two guys would quarrel even over a meal.
He just thinks that eating this way is more atmospheric, and besides, everyone is acquaintances, so there is no need to be so particular.
He swore that if he knew that the two of them would quarrel, he would hold a banquet according to Zhou etiquette honestly and never go beyond it.
"I heard that during the Yao and Shun period, productivity was insufficient and the food grown was not enough to sustain the survival of the entire tribe. People often formed teams to hunt in the mountains. After obtaining the prey, they gathered around and ate it. Could it be that Mr. Kong Chuan thought that Yao and Shun were not lawful?" Xunzi laughed. said.
What he said was proposed by Confucius and Mencius
"Follow the ancestors of kings." Confucius believed: "The ways of the ancestors of kings are the most beautiful." Mencius believed: "Practice the ways of the ancestors of kings."
"Follow the laws of the previous kings", the way of kings and ministers,
"Both of them are just the laws of Yao and Shun." However, in Xunzi's view, these are extremely ridiculous. The ancient ritual system has gone through a long time and has long been lost in the dust of history.
Confucius once said
"I can describe the rites of the Xia Dynasty, but I am not able to describe them; I can describe the rites of the Yin Dynasty, but I cannot describe them in the Song Dynasty. This is because there are insufficient documents." Even the information on the rites of the Xia and Yin Dynasties is not complete, but it is said that they are important.
"Respect the law of the ancestors",
"Fa Yao and Shun", isn't it ridiculous? simply
"Calling the king to deceive the fool." Xunzi is now using the teachings of Confucius and Mencius to fight back against Kong Chuan, just like Gongsun Long used Confucius' words to fight back against Kong Chuan.
"..." Kong Chuan was suddenly speechless. He can refute Xunzi and say that Xunzi is wrong, but he cannot say that what Confucius and Mencius said is wrong, because what he learned is the way of Confucius and Mencius.
"Haha!" Xunzi sneered twice. Even his ancestors did not dare to object. How could he surpass his ancestors? If it cannot surpass its ancestors, how can such a school or family progress?
If it cannot make progress, no matter how prosperous the family is, it will only become a shame for Confucius and bring shame to Confucius.
"Mr. Kong Chuan, does he know why Confucius admired Zhou rites so much?" Xunzi continued.
"The ancestors once said, 'What I said about the Xia rites is not enough. I learned the Yin rites, which are preserved in the Song Dynasty. I learned the Zhou rites and use them now. I follow the Zhou.' He also said, 'The Zhou supervised the second generation. "Yu Yu is very literary, I follow Zhou." Therefore, our ancestors respected Zhou rites." Kong Chuan leaned over and said, not because of respect for Xunzi, but because of respect for Confucius.
"In this case, why did Confucius put forward the
"Benevolence"? "Xunzi took a piece of vegetable leaf and put it into his mouth. After swallowing it, he said.
"Benevolence is the foundation of etiquette. Our ancestors once said,
"Benevolence but not benevolence, what is like etiquette? Kindness but not benevolence, what is joy?"
"Restraining oneself and returning to rituals is benevolence. For one day to deny oneself and return to rituals, the world will return to benevolence." Kong Chuan said with his head held high.
"Wrong." Xunzi said loudly,
"Compared with Xia Li and Yin Li, Zhou Li is the most complete, most advanced, and most suitable for this era. Because it is suitable for today's use, Confucius chose Zhou Li."
"But! The advancement of Zhou Li was eight hundred years ago, not the advancement now! No system can be advanced three hundred years, five hundred years... or even eight hundred years later."
"In the process of admiring the Zhou rites, Confucius discovered the shortcomings of the Zhou rites. In order to be more in line with the times, he made changes and proposed 'benevolence'. Later, Mencius proposed 'righteousness'. But...society is constantly changing. , Confucius’ etiquette is backward today.”
"You guys keep saying that you are learning the Tao of Confucius and Mencius, but you don't even know why the Tao of Confucius and Mencius is like this. You can only see the surface, study hard, and study hard. But you can't see the continuous progress of Confucianism."
"It's okay if you don't make progress yourself, but you still have to block the progress of others and prevent others from opening up new paths. What's the difference between you and those who blocked Confucius and Mencius back then? Are these the so-called Confucian disciples? Are these the so-called descendants of Confucius? If Confucius knew that his descendants were like you, he would blush with shame." Xunzi's words were as loud as morning bells and evening drums ringing in the hall, making his ears rumble and his eyesight turn black.
Lost again! He has never won against Xunzi!
"Mr. Kong Chuan, does he know why Zhou Rites stipulates that 'the emperor eats too much food, cattle, sheep, and hogs are all available, the princes eat cattle, the ministers eat sheep, the officials eat hogs, the scholars eat fish and roast it, and the common people eat vegetables'?" Xunzi said.
"Please give me some advice from Xunzi." Kong Chuan had no intention of continuing to argue with Xunzi.
"Because the Zhou Dynasty had just been established, the world was in chaos, the social system was in urgent need of stability, and the people were in urgent need of recuperation. In order to reduce the burden on the people, prevent the aristocracy from overly grinding the people, and allow the people to survive. Therefore, Duke Zhou stipulated that each class eat different foods. "
"At the same time, it was also stipulated that 'the princes should not kill cattle without reason, the officials should not kill sheep without reason, the scholars should not kill dogs and hogs without reason, and the common people should not eat treasures without reason'. The common people got the opportunity to recuperate and recuperate, and the nobles also got their own benefits, so the Zhou rites could be completed Implement it.”
"But now the Zhou ritual system has long since collapsed, and rituals and music no longer exist. It is completely unrealistic to emphasize Zhou ritual again." Xunzi said loudly.
Not to mention anything else, just continuing to regulate the eating methods and banquets of each class will be resisted by all classes.
The Zhou Dynasty is almost gone, who will maintain the Zhou rites? Rely on those who rebelled against the Zhou Dynasty? Stop joking, okay.
Yanxiong was listening to it and was stunned for a while. He still didn't understand it. He just ate a piece of meat. How could it belong to Confucius, Duke of Zhou, Xia Li, and Yao and Shun?
Are you so particular about eating a piece of meat?
"These scholars are really troublesome. They torture their own people all the time." Yan Xiong shook his head and continued to eat, completely ignoring the argument between Xunzi and Kong Chuan.
Kong Chuan lowered his head and remained silent. Kong Bin seemed to have not seen his clan brother being bullied by Xunzi and snatched meat with Yan Xiong.
It's not that he doesn't want to help Kong pierce it, but he understands that even if he goes up, he will be buying one and getting one free. It's better to wait until everyone is here, and then take a good look at Xunzi's arrogance.
"What do you think, Your Majesty?" Lin Xiangru suddenly asked.
