Liu Yu said thoughtfully: "Yes, strictly speaking, you three are an emerging gentry, and you are inextricably linked to the Beifu Army and the Jingba Party, but apart from Xianzhi, you are not related to the former big There is almost no contact with the high-ranking families. Even Xianzhi used to be outside Wu. He does not have much friendship with the families in Jiankang City. Since Black Hand Qiankun claims to be an organization that represents the interests of the family, if there is no The representative of a high-class family cannot be justified.
At this point, Liu Yu paused: "But, why don't you go find Xie Hun and Du Sengshi? They should have a closer relationship with Xile.
Meng Chang shook his head: "Xianzhi and I won't agree. Xie Hun is a bit better, but Du Sengshi is a child of an aristocratic family who is completely unlearned and has no skills. Let them enter the Black Hand Universe, which will bring us down." Secondly, there will be one more follower of Xile. At that time, all independent proposals from me and Xianzhi that follow his lead will be difficult to pass.
Liu Yu laughed: "But Yanda, haven't you been very close to Xile? Don't you two have common opinions?
Meng Chang said calmly: "Just like you and Fatty, your relationship is so good that you can wear a pair of pants, but do you and Fatty have the same views on everything? In the end, there is no discussion. Fatty will only carry out all your plans unconditionally." Order and not even raise objections?
Liu Yu waved his hand: "That's not true. We have quarreled a lot and have many differences on major issues. If what he said makes sense, I have to make compromises and concessions on many things, or even give up. It was my original plan. Xianzhi, it must be the same between us.
Xu Xianzhi nodded: "Yes, gentlemen are harmonious but not uniform, and villains are cliquey but not clumsy. No matter how good the relationship between us is, we will have different ways of doing things due to differences in interests and opinions. The reason why I want to join the Mafia Qiankun, because I am a descendant of an aristocratic family, my family must follow the inheritance model of a descendant of an aristocratic family, so you, Liu Jinu, want to eliminate the entire aristocratic family class and break all the current class divisions. I think it is unrealistic. Join the Black Hand Qiankun. , but also to gather the strength of everyone to stop these unrealistic practices of yours.
Liu Yu sighed, and his eyes became lonely: "To be honest, the fact that you joined the Black Hand Qiankun was a big blow to me. I didn't expect that you didn't share the same heart with me!
Xu Xianzhi said calmly: "When we were playing in Jingkou since childhood, Fatty and I were not of the same mind as you. After all, we are nobles and scholars. What we want to do is how to become officials and use what we have learned in our lives to manage the world and benefit the people. , and you are thinking about making contributions to the Northern Expedition to the Central Plains. When Fatty and I discussed it privately, we didn't agree so much. If it hadn't been for the Battle of Feishui, and if the Xie family hadn't formed the Beifu Army, I'm afraid your passion and military ideals would have been lost. It won't come true in this life, but Fatty and I will be able to succeed sooner or later.
Liu Yu curled up his lips and said in a deep voice: "But under the original system, you and Fatty are unable to display your talents under the pressure of those children of good-for-nothing families who occupy the latrines and do nothing. Is this what you want to protect?" Rules and order?
Xu Xianzhi said solemnly: "If there were no such rules and order, I'm afraid Fatty and I wouldn't even be able to read and write, so what would we be able to do? Slave, there are different paths in this world, and we need you to charge forward like this. An invincible warrior can't live without the military rule of scholars. You have fought for so many years and you know that without the assistance of talented military personnel, the supply of military supplies for your army and the post-war rule will be impossible. , where to start?
Liu Yu gritted his teeth: "That's because the elite families have monopolized knowledge and education, leaving ordinary people with no chance to even read. This needs to be changed sooner or later, just like protecting the family and the country only by relying on It is not enough for everyone in Jingkou to practice martial arts. What I want is that all the people in Jin Dynasty have the opportunity to learn martial arts and receive education and training. Only by selecting talents from more and more people , our country will prosper, instead of harming the future of the world in order to protect the interests of a small group and small circle!
Xu Xianzhi nodded: "I know that you have lofty ideals and ambitions, and I agree with what you think, but I don't believe that we can achieve it in our lifetime. Anyone in the world can carry out such a fundamental revolution. Reforms require a lot of bloodshed and sacrifice, and all current
The price of maintaining order is to overthrow it and start over again. If you are not careful, the world will be in chaos. Even if it is temporary success, people and government will often be destroyed. So I do not disagree with your ideal, but I think this must be done step by step and slowly, just like Children of aristocratic families, what you want is to wipe them all out at once and replace the existing aristocratic families with new ones, but do you think this is realistic?
Liu Yu's eyes sparkled and he was unable to respond for a moment.
Xu Xianzhi looked at Xie Daoju and said: "It is true that the children of the aristocratic family have lost their ambition and motivation because power comes so easily and effortlessly. So when we joined the army, there were few who could be worthy of great power. They used the children of the aristocratic families, but even if the Jingba brothers replaced all the official positions of the children of the aristocratic families overnight relying on their military achievements, can this kind of thing be avoided? It is not said that they only rely on force, right? If you have the ability to govern civilly, even if you have this ability, if you give up martial arts and follow civility, you can ensure that future generations will be as enterprising as you are, dedicated to serving the country?"
At this point, Xu Xianzhi said in a deep voice: "Not to mention our descendants, even among us old brothers who have been through life and death, aren't there some of us who have become comfortable and happy and have lost our fighting spirit? Wei Shunzhi is not an exception. Poor people are not necessarily better than rich people. Noble and enterprising. Once the poor suddenly become rich, the lack of family education and the inheritance and continuation of the spirit of struggle are more likely to cause problems. Which of the children of the aristocratic families you look down on now has no ancestors who have struggled and made great contributions to the country? ?If merit and title cannot be inherited, then how can you ensure that everyone strives for it?
Liu Yu sighed softly: "I remember now, when Huai Su died, you once told me that the aristocratic families cannot be completely eliminated and abandoned, but still need to unite with them, or even make suggestions. I started cultivating the Liu clan and promoting in-laws. At that time, I thought you were trying to persuade me to join the clan, but now I know that you wanted me to become a new aristocratic family too.