Kumarajiva sighed: "But according to my Buddha's philosophy, universal salvation for all sentient beings should be like this. Duopeng, I am different from you. You only want to have power in every life, to control and enslave all the people in the world. If you serve, even if you become an immortal or a god according to your ideals, it will just be asking all living beings to provide you with incense, which is not what I want."
Having said this, Kumarajiva took a deep breath: "After all, I am a disciple of Buddhism, and I must pay attention to the equality of all living beings. What Liu Yu thinks and does is actually more in line with my philosophy. His kind of rubbing technique , I am very interested. With this, there is no need for so many monks to come to Qingdeng Ancient Buddha Land every day to copy the scriptures. Just copy them directly."
Doupeng curled his lips in disdain: "If it can be made directly, what else will so many monks do? I'm afraid that no matter who becomes the emperor, it is impossible for you to have three thousand more disciples in Fahua Temple. , Monk, you are not Liu Yu. Your Dharma is just a cover for you. What you really want is to have more and more disciples and occupy more and more fields, so that you can always be a wealthy man wearing cassocks. , If you really want to save all sentient beings like your Buddha, you should take this broken bowl of yours right now, practice asceticism, and travel around the world."
Kumarajiva wanted to open his mouth to refute Doupeng, but in the end he had nothing to say. He could only sigh: "I have been pampered since I was a child. Although I have tried to practice hard, I really can't survive on my own. You are right, If it weren't for the disciples in the temple, I wouldn't be able to spread the Dharma and save people, even my own survival would be a problem. However, if there is a method of copying, these scriptures can be turned into thousands of volumes, and then spread throughout the world. In the world, I still need this."
Doupeng sneered and said: "You just need more people to understand Buddhist scriptures and believe in your Buddhist teachings, and then they can escape into Buddhism and become monks and nuns. After all, when you become a monk, you don't have to pay taxes or suffer from the secular world." Being exploited by the kings, for those people at the bottom who live worse than dogs in troubled times, becoming a monk is obviously a better choice. To put it bluntly, you still want more and more people to serve you. But I I advise you not to have such illusions. Liu Yu's ideas are different from yours. In his view, both monks and Taoists are just wearing a religious cloak to practice the tricks of encircling people in reality. It’s just a matter of fact, no different from aristocratic families, they are all targets that must be attacked and eliminated.”
Kumarajiva said angrily: "That's nonsense! Whether they are monks or Taoists, they are all about persuading people to do good and giving people inner peace and tranquility. This troubled world was caused by them, the emperors and generals who conquered cities and territories. For their sake My own desire for power and achievements, provoking wars and imposing exorbitant taxes, will make those people who cannot survive turn to Buddhism and Taoism. Who are you qualified to say such things?"
Doupeng laughed loudly: "So Liu Yu wants to eliminate all foreign countries in the world and restore the world of the Han Dynasty and the Jin Dynasty. In this way, there will be no chaos and the world will be peaceful. After the world is peaceful, those who compete with the country for profit will No matter whether it is a powerful family or you Buddhists and Taoists, it is no longer necessary. The common people's land is divided by the state, so they only need to cultivate the land and weave cloth, pay taxes to the state and serve. What else do you need to become a monk and a Taoist?"
Kumarajiva gritted his teeth: "The state is not omnipotent and cannot solve all the worries and troubles of everyone. Is it true that only war in troubled times will make people feel painful and want to burn incense and worship Buddha? Not to mention that as long as there is a state, it will Even if Liu Yu was the Buddha, he could not forbid the powerful people to oppress the people. Even if according to his idea, all real officials fulfilled their duties and put the people first, then ordinary people would have countless incidents in their daily lives. Contradictions and conflicts, and all kinds of unsatisfactory things in life, don’t we need to obtain inner peace through religion? No matter when, this matter of praying to God and Buddha can’t be stopped.”
Doupeng sneered and said: "Can it be that coming to your place to burn incense and donate some money can solve these real-life troubles? Monk, I think you are deceiving yourself and others. You have played this game too much, and you have even believed it. ah!"
Kumarajiva said bitterly: "I have said that people always want peace of mind and hope for troubles and problems that cannot be solved in reality, just like Liu Yu's current life, with great power, glory and wealth, Ordinary people dream of living a life like this, but they can’t get it. Can’t they come and burn incense and worship Buddha and pray that they can live like this in their next life? Is it possible that at home, when you are angry in life but can’t get out? , can’t you come here to seek inner peace? Liu Yu is not an emperor. Even if he is an emperor, he cannot solve the sufferings of all people. Only Buddha and gods can make people go to the paradise in the next life!"
Doupeng laughed loudly: "Monk, monk, you are deceiving yourself and others, but you still don't believe it. If you only cultivate the afterlife, after death, do you think you can commit suicide by burning incense here and worshiping Buddha?"
Kumarajiva's eyes widened and his beard was trembling slightly. Apparently, he was stopped by the question.
A cold light flashed in Doupeng's eyes: "Whether you are here or in the Taoist temple, this kind of praying to gods and Buddhas is just hoping that the gods and Buddhas can give you something in return. Your strengths lie in Taoism's talk about cultivating immortals and Buddhism's talk about the afterlife. Things that cannot be confirmed in reality can give people false hope and make the ignorant people who are not satisfied in reality believe that things will be better in the future. But if Liu Yu can end the war and realize his idea of making everyone literate and everyone has something As long as the land is cultivated and there is food to eat, there will not be too many sentient beings suffering. Not to mention the people who want to escape from the world and avoid taxes, there will not be many pilgrims and donors who come to your temple to burn incense and worship Buddha. . When that day comes, I’m afraid your Fahua Temple will have to close its doors.”
Kumarajiva's eyes sparkled and he fell into deep thought.
Doupeng's eyes became sharp, and his speech speed also increased: "To put it bluntly, monk, you are the same as us. Only when the world is chaotic and all living beings are in hardship, will some people believe in you, and only then will some people want to escape into Buddhism and become a monk? Your disciple, if Liu Yu really succeeds and makes the world a paradise, then who will be willing to listen to your teachings and continue to worship you? If you want to become a Buddha, you have to let the world live. Not good, otherwise, no one will believe in wealth in the afterlife and bliss after death, and will only think about how to live longer in this life. Liu Yu may be a very noble person, but because of this, he is your My mortal enemy, even you need to destroy him more than me!"
Kumarajiva gritted his teeth: "What should I do?"
Doupeng smiled slightly: "Now we can discuss the main topic."
