Chapter 410 Economic Binding and Population

Style: Historical Author: Wang ZixuWords: 5319Update Time: 24/01/12 18:53:02
Zhu Jingyuan stayed at the Motor Vehicle Industrial Park on Chongming Island for three days.

This time I didn’t organize the car race in person, because the car race already had a foundation.

Before Zhu Jingyuan intervened, there were already various horse-drawn carriage races, bicycle races, motor vehicle and automobile races.

Zhu Jingyuan originally made special arrangements for the imperial court of the Great Food Kingdom to organize car competitions, and now they have reached a certain scale.

According to the original plan, Zhu Jingyuan was planning to leave for Edo to take office after visiting Nantong.

But what he thought when he visited the shipyard a few days ago and what happened in the past few days made Zhu Jingyuan change his mind.

While his father was still in Yingtian Mansion, he went back to Yingtian Mansion to have an interview with him.

On the way back to Yingtian, Zhu Jingyuan sorted out his recent thoughts and wrote a relatively complete report.

After arriving at Yingtian, he went to meet his father and handed over the report.

Zhu Jingyuan originally thought that his father would at least ask for details, but after reading it, Zhu Jianyan said directly:

"Just go ahead and do it, don't worry about the gossips of those villains..."

Zhu Jingyuan was obviously startled when he heard this, and then quickly realized that his father was trying to comfort him.

He was worried that the tabloid articles of the past few days would affect his mentality.

There should have been questions, but I deliberately didn't ask them this time, using such actions to show support for myself.

Zhu Jingyuan suddenly smiled helplessly:

"Father, you don't have to be like this. Don't you and I still know what our Ming Dynasty is like?

"Those are basically tabloids that are not on the table, and those ideas are just like the emperor using a golden pole.

"I didn't take it seriously in the first place, and I didn't come back this time to observe your attitude towards me...

"I really want to take this opportunity to have a good chat with you before I go to other places.

"Because it will be several years before we meet again..."

Zhu Jianyan smiled and waved:

"Well, it's true that I was worrying too much, Jingyuan, you are still the same, you haven't changed at all, so I feel relieved.

"Then let me ask a few questions. I do have something to ask you.

"You are worried about the Thai-Spanish people engaging in joint research and development. This is indeed a concern that cannot be ignored.

"But what are the considerations for incorporating the industrial system of Taixi into the industrial system of Ming Dynasty?"

Zhu Jingyuan explained well prepared:

“Let the countries in Europe and the West be deeply tied to the Ming Dynasty economically, and let their markets become part of the Ming Dynasty market.

“If they are unable to operate independently after leaving the Ming Dynasty, the economic order will quickly collapse.

“At the very least, the chaos will last for a long time, so that the overall economic and technological level will be reduced for an era.

“To achieve this goal, we can continue to open up some advanced technologies to the West and the West.

“Of course, just like the cooperation with France and the UK, the opening up of technology is conditional, and this condition is the market.

“Or to put it another way, this process is the process of economic colonization.

“If they want to learn from Daming’s high-end technology, they must become part of the market controlled by Daming.

“The two are actually one and two, two and one.

“The higher the level of technology, the more difficult it is to implement, and the greater the demand on the industrial base and market.

“When the final products they can produce reach a certain level of complexity, they will not be able to maintain the entire industrial base as a country.

“At the same time, some of their industries should have been completely controlled by Daming’s capital.

“When that happens, they completely lose the opportunity to be independent.

“At that time, even if their king and court want to oppose the Ming Dynasty, they will be restrained by their domestic capital representatives.



“The size of the European and Western countries is relatively limited compared to the Ming Dynasty, and they are not too far away from this level.

"That's when electronic computers and turbine engines became commonplace."

Zhu Jianyan showed an expression of surprise after hearing half of it, because he found the corresponding thing in Shizu's posthumous chapter:

"The economies of both parties are bound to each other, and the huge Ming Dynasty has an absolute dominance, so the other party can become our Ming Dynasty's de facto economic colony..."

Zhu Jingyuan also nodded immediately:

“That’s it, I think that’s where we’re going in the next phase.

"We should make it impossible for the other party to leave Daming, but Daming can abandon them at any time.

"In this way, a full-scale war will be basically impossible...

“If the other party’s royal family and court oppose us, we can even mobilize the other party’s civil forces.

“Let the other side’s capital and people force their royal family to cooperate with us.

"Even the act of abolishing the establishment of something."

Zhu Jingyuan was talking about things that actually happened in his previous life.

But the United States, where the Europeans were bound to the United States in Ming Dynasty's previous life, was different.

When Americans bind the Thais, they themselves are actually bound in the opposite direction to a certain extent.

Because after the information age, the population and size of the United States are still an order of magnitude behind.

The United States and Europe must merge into one to form a completely complete industrial system.

Although the United States may account for half or more of them, Tessie is also indispensable to the United States.

The current and future Ming Dynasty is an order of magnitude larger than the United States, and has the ability to realize a complete industrial system on its own.

Zhu Jianyan, who had read Shizu's posthumous chapter, immediately captured the key to Zhu Jingyuan's logic:

"Let the capital and people in the other country launch a coup...

"Is it also possible to let the other party's domestic capital and people demand it and let the other party take the initiative to become a vassal of the Ming Dynasty?"

Zhu Jingyuan was stunned for a moment. As expected, his father was still interested in the territory.

In fact, the current Ming Emperor must have the idea of ​​unifying the world. After all, there are two out of three parts of the world.

But the current Emperor Ming doesn't want to mention the war anymore.

It’s been a while since I’ve had a taste for War of the Worlds.

If there is a peaceful annexation method that allows the other party to take the initiative to annex it, there will definitely be a lot of interest.

Of course Zhu Jingyuan also considered:

“Theoretically, we can do that, but when we do that, we have to consider whether it is beneficial to Ming Dynasty.

"The Western Yi are not the traditional vassals around the Ming Dynasty. Their race and culture are completely different from ours.

“Even if we want to do this, we must control the population comparison between the two sides. The people of Ming Dynasty must be at least twice as many as the other side.

"Now there are only less than a quarter more people in Ming Dynasty than there are people in Taixi.

“If we maintain natural growth in the future, it will be difficult for us to achieve several times the ratio of the other party.

“We must find ways to control the population growth rate of the Thai people and at the same time carry out deep and thorough cultural penetration.

“After at least one generation or even two generations of preparation, a relatively safe and peaceful annexation can be achieved.

"Otherwise it will be a source of disaster for our future generations..."

Zhu Jianyan suddenly felt a little regretful:

"Indeed, the Han Dynasty's inadequate handling of the Xiongnu's internal migration may have been the early inducement for the Five Husties to disrupt China.

"It seems that my generation is no longer capable. No matter how we plan, it must be completed by your generation."

Speaking of this, Zhu Jianyan became energetic again:

“However, regardless of whether there is a peaceful annexation in the end, it is right to find ways to control the Taishi population.

"This time your staff went to England to express condolences to Pitt. They can go find Malthus...

“In a state of peace, the population will grow exponentially, while the means of living can only grow linearly.

"What's more, now that the world has been fully explored and distributed, the territories controlled by the European and Western countries are only half of the Ming Dynasty, and the area gap in grain-producing areas will be even greater.

“So if the countries in Europe and the West are left alone, famine, war and plague will inevitably occur.

“So we should recommend that countries in Europe and the West take measures to curb the birth rate.

"Malthus could be funded to promote his theories."

He nodded with a very complicated expression:

"I will remind Mr. Niu..."

Then Zhu Jianyan seemed to think of something again:

"Jingyuan, do you think there is any problem with this theory? Should our Ming Dynasty ourselves be prepared?

"Our Ming Dynasty's land is not unlimited, after all, the entire earth is only this size.

“If the number of people in Ming Dynasty increases to several billion, various problems will definitely arise.

"Jingyuan, what do you think of this issue? Have you ever considered it?"

Zhu Jianyan did not have deep feelings about these things and considered these logics very objectively.

Zhu Jingyuan's inquiry even included the intention of investigation and comparison.

I want to see if Zhu Jingyuan deviates significantly from the ideas left by Emperor Shizu on this level of issues.

Zhu Jingyuan obviously has thoughts on this issue, and even has deep personal experience:

“Population growth is not exponential in nature, because normal people’s energy is limited.

“With the continuous development of technology and culture, the overall educational level of ordinary people will become higher and higher.

“The work they do will become more and more complex, and the social affairs they need to deal with will become more complex.

“The energy that ordinary people allocate to raising and educating future generations is also limited.

“And as the level of education increases, the complexity of the work performed increases, and there is a corresponding downward trend.

“The more critical issue is that people with higher education levels will have higher requirements for their offspring.

“Ordinary people hope that their children will go up, at least not lower than themselves.

“This increases the energy and resources required to raise an individual child.

“The energy that parents can spend on their children continues to decrease, while the resources that need to be provided to a single child continue to increase. The direct result is that the number of children will decrease significantly.

“This does not take into account that as society develops, women’s status will continue to rise, and they will increasingly participate in more social work, and they will no longer just bear traditional reproductive obligations.

“It also fails to take into account the pressure on life caused by social problems such as the concentration of production means and inflation of means of subsistence.

“So when society develops to a certain extent, the birth rate will naturally decrease.

"In fact, only the royal family, nobles and high-level businessmen, these families who do not need to take care of their children themselves, will have an exponential growth in their offspring.

“Unless the imperial court can truly achieve absolute socialized upbringing.

“If ordinary people only focus on breeding and not raising animals, the number will definitely continue to expand.

"At the same time, the increase in living standards is not linear...

“At least in the era of the Industrial Revolution, it was not linear, and the growth rate may be faster than the increase in population.

“The effects of chemical fertilizers are now being felt.

“If it can be popularized quickly, it can directly double the grain yield per unit area within a few years.

“It may take two generations for the population to double.

“We can’t guarantee that technological innovation will continue to happen, but we can’t guarantee that it won’t continue to happen either.

“My personal rough estimate is that if large-scale social unrest does not occur in the future, the peak of the Ming Dynasty’s population may be in the early 2000s.

"There is no need to consider the situation of billions of Ming people.

“When your grandchildren come, the emperor and the court should worry about how to increase the fertility rate.

"Based on the land currently controlled by the Ming Dynasty, plus decades of technological progress, by that time, it will be no problem to raise 10 billion Ming people...

“Finally, neither of the above two analyzes can prove that Malthus’ theory is wrong.

“His theory is based on logic under ideal circumstances without considering external factors.

“Of course, sociologically there are few ideal situations.

"So, we in Ming Dynasty don't need to care about the existence of this theory, but we can promote this theory in Europe and the West."

Zhu Jianyan listened to Zhu Jingyuan's long speech very quietly, and compared it with the relevant theories in Shizu's posthumous chapter.

Then judge the credibility of the relevant logic in your own mind.

Zhu Jianyan did not completely blindly believe in Shizu's posthumous works, nor did he blindly believe in Zhu Jingyuan's various theories.

There are not only various predictions and predictions in Shizu's Legacy, but also very mature guided thinking and analysis theories.

Future generations are required to learn analytical methods first, then look at those predictions dialectically, and apply them based on their own actual situations.

Zhu Jingyuan didn't say anything, just waiting for his father to think on his own.

After a long time, Zhu Jianyan spoke again:

"So...Jingyuan, what you are saying is that Ming Dynasty does not need to consider the issue of controlling population growth at all.

“The population of Ming Dynasty will begin to decline before it reaches the limit of Ming Dynasty’s land resources.

“So, our Ming Dynasty even needs to consider in advance to prevent the population growth rate from prematurely decreasing?

"Have you thought about this?"

Zhu Jingyuan nodded again:

“I really have some thoughts on this aspect, and the most important ones are actually two aspects.

“The first is what I said before, to prevent excessive pressure from competition for survival in society.

"Actually, for the current Ming Dynasty, this matter is not a problem. Even if it is discussed now, it is a precaution for the future.

“At the same time, Emperor Shizu has left behind a large number of preventive measures, many of which are still effective today.

“The first step is to improve the smooth education and employment system for craftsmen and prevent the gap in income and social status between manual and mental workers.

"Intellectual workers will not earn more than manual workers, nor will they have a significantly more respected social status.

"Then ordinary people in society will not want to send their children to be mental workers.

“The social affairs that manual workers need to face are much simpler than those of mental workers.

“So they will have more energy to focus on having and raising children.

“Let them have a relatively decent status and income, and let their children maintain the same standard of living relatively easily.

“So that they won’t find it troublesome to have children, and they won’t worry about their children’s future lives.

"They have no worries about having children.

“Then there is the avoidance of unrestricted women’s emancipation.

“To a certain extent, these two logics are one and the same.

“Most of the large-scale and sustained women’s liberation movements are driven by interests.

“It’s not wrong for women to take care of their husbands and raise children, and it’s certainly not wrong to be self-reliant.

“The key is who evaluates what is right or wrong, and how are the relevant decisions made?

"Is it a person's inner thinking and understanding? Is it a need for personal life?

“Or is it coerced by public opinion, or driven by deliberately created anxiety?

“For ordinary women, if they can take care of their husbands and raise children at home, they can live a stable life for the rest of their lives, so why should they take the initiative to go out to work?

“For some women who are naturally suited to participate in scientific research, engineering, and management, they can make greater contributions to society after leaving home.

“However, it is an ulterior motive to require all women to go out to work and to be independent from their parents and families.

“It’s about forcing a theory that favors certain groups on everyone.

“All women going out to work will essentially double the number of workers and greatly improve the bargaining position of manufacturers.

“The court should do the opposite and ensure the income of the vast majority of workers and their living standards.

“A slightly skilled worker can support his wife and children relatively stably.

“Let his wife’s choice of whether to go out to work rest in his and his wife’s hands.

"Rather than becoming a wife who doesn't go out to work, the children will be hungry, and there will be no future, so she has to work.

“This way we can naturally avoid excessive women’s liberation.

“In the final analysis, it is to ensure the most basic fairness of the entire society and avoid excessive concentration of social wealth and resources.

"Let more of the benefits generated by technological innovation fall on the main workers of society."