Seeing that the Ming Dynasty and the Ottomans had basically reached an agreement with Egypt, French Foreign Minister Talleyrand came up with ideas in a hurry.
I remembered the question asked by the Ottoman Grand Vizier Zayadin:
"May I ask Shen Shaoqing, if the Ottomans hand over the Palestinian area, how long will the peace treaty between your Ming Dynasty and the Ottomans last?"
Shen Fu did not reply directly, but turned to look at Zhu Jingyuan.
According to the previous agreement, if it is something that has not been determined internally beforehand, just look at it and ask Zhu Jingyuan for instructions.
Zhu Jingyuan can decide directly if he has an idea. If he doesn't think about it well, he won't give a definite answer yet.
Faced with this question, Zhu Jingyuan gave the answer without much thought:
"Five years."
Now Talleyrand smiled.
The transfer of a large piece of territory was merely in exchange for five years of peace, a condition that Osman could not accept.
Others even let out suppressed sounds of surprise. Five years was really too short.
The expression of Zayadin, the Ottoman Grand Vizier, became very ugly:
"Your Highness the Food King, you claimed at the banquet that you were for peace in this era. Is it just a joke?"
Zhu Jingyuan said of course:
“My promise at the banquet was to promise not to capture your core area, the Anatolian Plateau, and I say the same now.
“If Ottoman transfers all the land south of the Anatolian Plateau, plus the island of Cyprus in the Great Qin Sea, to Ming Dynasty, Ming Dynasty can promise you permanent peace.
"And the Ming Dynasty will provide protection to Osman and promise not to cooperate with Lucia and Austria to dismember Osman."
This is a promise, but it is also a naked threat.
The scene immediately erupted with exclamations of surprise.
But the meaning of everyone's exclamation was different. Some people were purely surprised by Zhu Jingyuan's straightforwardness, while others had slightly changed their minds.
For example, the Lucians thought of Constantinople, which was their spiritual sustenance.
The Austrians also had more lands in the Balkans in mind.
The Ottoman Grand Vizier Zayedin thought about all the situations, and then said loudly in a very heavy and painful tone:
"The Romance of Fairy Wood"
"The Ming Dynasty's promise may be very important, but a promise can only be exchanged for a promise, not for land."
Zhu Jingyuan said without hesitation:
“Either we change or we don’t change at all, we sign directly according to the battle lines, or we don’t stop the war at all and we go back and continue fighting!
"I am the food king of Ming Dynasty. I want to get all the food areas that our Ming Dynasty considers to be great food!"
Zayadin was silent, unable to respond to this threat.
But some people just can't stop talking.
British Prime Minister William Pitt immediately stood up, ready to say a few words:
"Don't get excited, both of you. Let's negotiate slowly. How about we both take a step back?
"His Royal Highness the Food King, our anti-Ming alliance still exists and we have not disbanded.
"If Ming Dynasty wants to continue the war, then our alliance will still continue..."
Zhu Jingyuan didn't wait for him to finish speaking, interrupted directly and said more forcefully:
"Then let's keep fighting! I might as well tell you directly that I don't support an armistice in the first place!
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"We'd better just break up and go back and continue fighting for another three, five, or ten years!
"Let me see how many more years you Osmans can hold on!"
Zhu Jingyuan didn't wait for their response, stood up and left the Wenhua Hall.
Guan Tianpei and two staff members quickly followed.
Shen Fu also stood up expressionlessly and announced:
"That's it for today's talks. You go back and think about it carefully. If you really don't accept it at all, you can return to your homeland."
A question from Talleyrand caused the situation to take a turn for the worse, and representatives from various countries were confused.
Under the urging of the palace guards, he quickly left the Wenhua Palace and the palace, returned to his residence and immediately held an internal meeting.
Since there were too many countries in the anti-Ming alliance and the languages were too complex, it was impossible to waste time by having people translate them, so they still used the elegant dialect of the Ming Dynasty.
The young French Prince Charles spoke first:
"Why is this Prince of Dashi so erratic? He said he came here for peace in our time, but today he said he didn't support an armistice in the first place."
French Foreign Minister Talleyrand shook his head and explained:
“Your Highness, Prince Dashi’s attitude is not capricious, he just expresses his purpose in different ways under different circumstances.
"He did come with peace on behalf of the Ming Dynasty, but this peace comes with a price and conditions.
“The Ming Dynasty’s previous relations with the Netherlands, Portugal, and Spain all achieved long-term peace after the Ming Dynasty achieved its strategic goals.
“The current situation is that Ming Dynasty did not achieve its goals on the battlefield, so it wants to achieve them at the negotiation table.
“If we all accept their conditions, there will be no need for war, so there will be peace.
"So he did come for peace."
Others roughly understood this logic, but they all felt very aggrieved.
The logic is like: If you give me everything I want, we can get along well, and I won't do anything.
The British Prince of Wales suddenly became a little irritable and said:
"Da Ming is too arrogant. What he didn't get on the battlefield still wants to achieve it at the negotiation table?
"The goals proposed today are only for the Dashi area. The goals in Yinzhou and Lucia are huge!
"How much land does he need to ask for from Lucia? How many colonies do he need to get in Yinzhou to achieve all their goals?"
Spanish Prime Minister Manuel said in a serious tone:
“When Ming Dynasty achieves its goals, peace can be given, but who can guarantee that Ming Dynasty’s goal at this stage is the ultimate goal?
“The Ming Dynasty initially only regained the islands near their homeland, then took control of the entire Nanyang, and later the entire Daming Ocean and the Lesser Western Ocean.
“Now the Ming Dynasty is claiming the entire Dashi region, and the goals of Lucia and Yinzhou have not been clear yet.
"Who knows how much this greedy dragon will have to get before he can really give up?"
British Prime Minister William Pitt felt that the direction of the discussion was being guided by others, and immediately stood up to take over the conversation and preside over order:
“His ultimate goal has been put forward, at least temporarily, and he has promised not to claim land in mainland Europe.
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“The demands on the Ottomans have also been made, and they will not ask for the Anatolian Plateau, which is the peninsula of Asia Minor.
"So our question now is, do we trust him? Do we accept this condition?
"Can Osman accept it? If not, what should we do?"
Manuel asked subconsciously:
"Discuss directly whether we should accept Ming's request? Shouldn't we first determine whether it is Ming's bottom line?"
Peter looked at Manuel:
"Do you mean to find a way to repeatedly test Ming Dynasty and what are the minimum conditions for a permanent peace guarantee?"
Manuel nodded naturally:
"That's right. Negotiation involves bargaining."
Pete asked directly:
"You are right, but it is against opponents on the same level, at least there will be no absolute differences.
"Facing the opponent Daming, do you dare to completely believe in the bottom line you tried so hard to find?
“Have you ever thought about the perfunctory results you get that might make the other person impatient and give them casually?
“When you think you have successfully obtained the best terms, what you are facing is a punishing war that refuses to negotiate?
"Do you still remember the endings of the exterminated countries and regimes in Chinese history that you have studied?
“The Ming Dynasty saw the difficulty of ruling Europe, so they made a promise never to invade Europe.
"But if your repeated temptations irritate them, they don't have to rule, they can just punish.
“In the past two thousand years, their strategy towards the northern nomads was to punish rather than rule.
“In particular, the two emperors Hongwu and Yongle of the Ming Dynasty attacked the northern grasslands more than twenty times in total, with the sole purpose of killing people.
“After that, the grasslands were burned for a long time during the dry season, causing livestock on the grasslands to starve to death in winter.
"Proactively cut off the trade of salt and daily necessities in the grasslands, leaving the Mongolians to cook food in cowhide bags..."
Manuel looked a little embarrassed when faced with Peter's question, then he helplessly spread his hands and said:
"Then you can't just say what the Ming Dynasty says, right? The ancient nomads posed a great threat to the Central Plains, and we also have similar abilities now..."
Pete asked directly:
"You think the same thing? Can you go to Daming Yang and Xiao Xi Yang to completely destroy Daming's transportation lines?
“The Ming Dynasty could not find the nomadic people with no fixed settlements, but now they know where our homeland is.
"Have you ever considered the Ming Dynasty's attack on the North Atlantic?
"Especially your Spanish homeland is now exposed to the Ming Dynasty's navy!"
Manuel asked a little impatiently:
"Then what do you think we should do?"
Peter looked at the Ottoman Grand Vizier Zayadin:
"I tend to accept that even if I give you ten or twenty years, it will be difficult to develop to the level of competing with Ming Dynasty.
“But I can’t make decisions for others, Osman has to consider the details himself.
“I still think that as an alliance, we can collectively negotiate with Ming Dynasty and get better conditions.
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"The result of any country negotiating with Ming Dynasty alone is to let Ming Dynasty take whatever he wants."
Peter tried his best to exaggerate Ming's threat, and his purpose was obviously to encourage other countries to accept Ming's demands with anger and humiliation.
Then he continued to stay within the anti-Ming alliance he led and maintained the pattern of the entire Europe and the West fighting against the Ming Dynasty.
For this reason, Peter did not say some words. Talleyrand of France also thought of it, but after opening his mouth, he still did not speak.
However, Prussian Hardenberg made up for them:
"Both the Great Food King and Shen Fu Shaoqing mentioned that Osman can ask for support from Ming Dynasty, and Osman can work hard in this direction.
"Hand over the lands of the Arabs in exchange for industry, fleets, and even a shipbuilding technology system for the Turks...
"Outside of Anatolia, you have already lost the two best river basins in Asia. What's the point of holding on to a place like Syria?
"The colony of Syria can be exchanged for Ming's promise to ensure permanent peace. I think it can be considered."
Osman is actually also a suture monster. What Zhu Jingyuan and Daming asked for were the Arabian region, which is what Daming called Dashi.
The main ethnic group of the Ottomans is the Turks, mainly concentrated on the Anatolian Plateau.
Hardenberg was reminding Ottoman that the lands given up were actually colonies, and the colonies could be exchanged for local industrialization.
Then strategically turn to the Ming Dynasty and seek Ming Dynasty's protection. If you don't continue to follow the Taixi Anti-Ming Alliance, they can't protect you anyway.
This pointed another way to Osman.
Of course Pitt and Talleyrand understood this logic, so they immediately gave Hardenberg a hard look.
Manuel of Spain and Archduke Karl of Austria also frowned.
Where are you from Prussia? Your homeland has nothing to do with the Mediterranean, so you just want to confuse the Mediterranean, right?
Let Ming help the Ottomans promote industrialization and learn shipbuilding. This is an eyesore for all Mediterranean countries!
The European and European countries are now allies with the Ottomans, but they have fought each other countless times in history.
If the Ottomans accepted the Ming's request and asked for industrial and technical help, it might cause them to fully succumb to the Ming.
Although the Ming Dynasty promised not to occupy European lands, the Ottomans did not make any guarantees.
What if Ming Dynasty sends troops in the name of Osman?
Even if you, Prussia, don't want the war to continue and want to persuade the Ottomans to accept Ming's conditions, you can't use this method!
Didn’t the British show you an example earlier? Continue to remind you of the threats and terrors of Ming Dynasty!
Zayadin had completely understood what these Taixi people meant.
Some people are exaggerating the power of Ming Dynasty to remind themselves that they cannot refuse Ming Dynasty.
Some people are describing the ferocity of Ming Dynasty, warning themselves of the consequences of refusal.
Some people say that Da Ming can provide protection to remind themselves of the benefits of accepting Da Ming.
Although the angles are different, the purpose is the same.
They don't want the war to continue and they don't want to continue to help them fight against the Ming Dynasty, so they all want to accept the conditions.
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I just don’t know if you will be so active when you get Daming’s request.
Zayadin did not express his thoughts, but sighed softly and said:
"I need to consider your suggestions individually and confirm with the Sudan."
Representatives from various countries in Europe and the West said goodbye together and left, leaving Zayadin and Ali of Egypt alone.
After thinking for a while, Ali began to speak:
"Grand Vizier, facing an opponent of Ming's level, even surrendering and paying tribute is nothing.
"For most ordinary countries, becoming a vassal state of the Ming Dynasty can even be considered an honor.
“Besides, the Ottomans are originally an Asian country, not those barbarians in the West.
"Without the anti-Ming alliance, perhaps the Ottomans would have become a vassal state of the Ming Dynasty."
Zayadin waved his hands weakly:
"I understand, please go back first and let me think about it myself."
