Which Rome are you talking about? "
Faced with this question from representatives of the royal families of various countries in Europe and the West, Zhu Jingyuan actually had some thoughts in his heart... It should be said that he did not know very well.
Zhu Jingyuan knew that there were many things behind the name Rome, and it was absolutely a complete mess in Europe of this era.
It is precisely because the real Rome itself is gone that it becomes a complete blur.
This is also the reason why Zhu Jingyuan used the name Rome.
However, Zhu Jingyuan was not very clear about how many Romes there actually were, how many Roman emperors there were, and what the relationship was between them.
I am not a professional researcher of European and Western history, and I have never played Europa Universalis in my previous life.
Of course, Europa Universalis is not real to begin with. As far as the Holy Roman Empire in reality is concerned, it is much more broken than the HRE in the game.
So now Zhu Jingyuan is half-truth and half-false, and asked the Taixi court and royal representatives at the scene:
"With all due respect, this question is very strange. Are there many more in Rome? So which ones are there specifically?"
Zhu Jingyuan's question immediately sparked a discussion, or rather a dispute.
Lucia’s prince Nicholas was the first to speak and steal the spotlight:
"We, the Romanov dynasty royal family of the Lucia Empire, are descendants of Sophia, the last princess of the Roman Empire.
"So we are now Rome, the successor to the Eastern Roman Empire, the Third Roman Empire."
Then the Austrian Emperor's younger brother, Duke Theschen, Carl Ludwig, also known as Archduke Carl.
Although Archduke Karl felt that when the Ming Dynasty laid out Rome's position at this time, there was probably a trap waiting for the Europeans inside.
But considering that this issue was raised by the young man Zhu Jingyuan, the pitfalls inside should not be very big.
The key is that in the face of this kind of claim issue, as a representative of the royal family, it is impossible for me to back down, so I will declare directly now:
"Our Habsburg dynasty in the Austrian Empire still retains the claim of Holy Roman Emperor, so we in Austria are also the orthodox and legal successors of the Holy Roman Empire, that is, the Western Roman Empire."
Zhu Jingyuan nodded slightly when he heard this:
"So, this Rome is divided. Lucia is the successor of the Eastern Rome, and Austria is the successor of the Western Rome?"
When Zhu Jingyuan said these words, the Prussians over there couldn't help it.
In Prussia today, the German-Prussian nationalist trend is rapidly gathering.
Now they actually care more about Germany's name.
So now when others simply talk about Rome, the Prussians may be able to tolerate it.
If someone from another country locked up the Holy Roman Empire, the Prussians might not particularly care.
But Austria is different.
Austria is an obstacle to Prussia's complete unification of the German region and is the only competitor to actually unify the former HRE region.
In the current perception of the royal families of Prussia and Austria, the relationship between the two countries is like the Northern and Southern Dynasties in ancient China.
In addition, as a European royal family, it is impossible to relax easily in the face of the claims that they once had.
Especially when facing Austria, when the contradiction between the two sides is already obvious, it is difficult for the Prussian royal family to give in easily.
The twenty-four-year-old Friedrich Heinrich Karl, the younger brother of the Prussian Emperor, followed Archduke Karl of Austria and spoke:
"Our Hohenzollern dynasty of the Kingdom of Prussia is also the Elector of Brandenburg of the Holy Roman Empire.
"Furthermore, the Kingdom of Prussia has unified most of the Holy Roman Empire's lands.
"So we in Prussia are the real Holy Roman Empire."
Zhu Jingyuan seemed to be a little overwhelmed when he heard this:
"The HRE was Western Rome, and then Western Rome was divided into Prussia and Austria? So now there are three Romes?"
Archduke Karl of Austria, listening to the words of Heinrich of Prussia, had already somewhat anticipated what might happen.
In the past 100 years or so, nationalist thoughts have gradually emerged in various European countries, and the self-perception of each nation-state is gradually taking shape.
Everyone no longer particularly cares about Rome's title, but this is without anyone's deliberate guidance.
At this time, Ming Dynasty deliberately put the name of Rome on the map, which was definitely not good-natured.
However, Grand Duke Karl began to think that this was not the plan of Zhu Jingyuan, the young grandson of the emperor, but the plan of his elders.
Archduke Karl calmed down his emotions a little and did not directly refute Heinrich, trying his best not to directly entangle with the Prussians.
It's enough to declare the claim yourself. In the name of the HRE and Western Rome, Austria just doesn't promise to give up.
However, not everyone has the judgment and patience of Archduke Karl.
Even the French, who seemed completely unrelated, seemed to get involved very casually.
The French Crown Prince, Duke of Normandy, Louis Charles, who had just turned twenty, also known as Louis XVII in history, also intervened at this time:
"We France are the homeland of Charlemagne's Western Rome, and we France are the successors of Rome's Western Rome."
This time Zhu Jingyuan was really a little unexpected:
"France is also descended from Romans? So now there are four Romans in the West?
"Lucia, Prussia, Austria, France, which one is the real Rome?
"Which of your countries now belongs to the birthplace of Rome and the capital of Rome?"
The royal members of the four countries suddenly looked embarrassed.
Rome has two capitals, Rome and New Rome, which is Constantinople.
But these two capitals are not under the control of the four countries.
In this strange atmosphere, the Sardinian-Italians heard the discussion about the Roman capital and jumped in.
The younger brother of the King of Sardinia, Duke of Aosta, Vittorio Emanuele came, and the King of Sardinia who had succeeded to the throne in history spoke up:
"We in Italy are the birthplace of Rome, and our capital has been moved back to the city of Rome!"
In his heart, Zhu Jingyuan actually doesn't care much about who is the real Rome.
What Zhu Jingyuan cares about now is that someone will argue about the name of Rome, which will lead to conflicts between them and eventually divide the anti-Ming alliance.
Therefore, Zhu Jingyuan very much welcomes and approves of someone's interference, so he deliberately asked immediately:
"So you Sardinians...are your Italians the real Rome?"
Duke Aosta nodded naturally:
"Yes, we are the direct successors of Rome."
Archduke Karl once again warned himself to hold back and not to speak if he could help but express his opinion.
But Prussian Heinrich couldn't help it:
"Your Savoy royal family in the Kingdom of Sardinia is not the elector of the Holy Roman Empire at all."
The Duke of Aosta of the Kingdom of Sardinia immediately refuted:
"But we have the city of Rome, the capital of the Holy Roman Empire and the capital of the Roman Empire. Rome is our capital. The real descendants of Rome are mainly concentrated in our territory in Italy!"
Here, Prussian Heinrich felt frustrated, and then he said a little arrogantly:
"If it occupies the former capital of Rome, then it is considered Rome, then isn't the Ottoman Empire also Rome?"
As soon as these words came out, the members of the Thai and Western royal family at the scene subconsciously looked at the two people.
The Grand Vizier of the Ottoman Empire, the highest official equivalent to the Prime Minister, Kol (the blind) Yusuf Zayadin.
The Ottoman Empire was different from other European countries. They had no interest in sending royal representatives and only arranged for the Grand Vizier to come.
Another representative from the Ottomans at the scene was nominally the pasha (governor) of Egypt in the Ottoman Empire—Muhammad Ali.
However, because the Ming Dynasty occupied the Sinai Peninsula and completely isolated Egypt from the Ottoman mainland, Egypt was actually independent.
Egypt was actually the eleventh country in the anti-Ming alliance, and had a slight chance of participating in the peace talks.
Grand Vizier Zayedin did not seem to want to get involved in this matter, and did not think that now was the time to compete for the Roman throne.
But Ali stood up and said what others had already guessed:
"We, the Ottoman Empire, now own the capital of the Eastern Roman Empire, the city of New Rome, which is Constantinople.
"This is like the Mongol Empire in the East. Their prince Kublai Khan established the Yuan Dynasty in China after he conquered China.
"So our Ottoman Empire became the actual successor of the Eastern Roman Empire in the form of conquest."
Ali seemed to have mentioned the Mongols on purpose, as if he wanted to anger Zhu Jingyuan and Zhu Jianfeng's uncle and nephew.
But neither the uncle nor the nephew cared about this matter at all, because the Mongols have now been fully integrated with the Ming Dynasty.
Today's Mongolians, including the true descendants of the Golden Family, are very accurate in their positioning. They are the second eldest son of the great Ming Dynasty family.
Their mission is to go out specifically to intimidate - which is also attracting various ethnic groups in Anxi.
Ordinary people from various countries in Anxi wanted to become Ming people and Mongolians when they were in the East.
When you are in Taixi, you can get all kinds of preferential treatment by simply claiming to be a Mongolian from the Ming Dynasty.
In fact, Zhu Jingyuan was very happy. Now that Osman has joined in to fight for Rome, he has to give some more help:
"Ottoman is also the successor of Eastern Rome, so there are actually two Eastern Rome, Lucia and Osman.
"Two Eastern Rome, plus four Western Rome, you have a total of six Rome in Western Europe.
"We only have Britain, Spain, Portugal, and the Netherlands on site, not Rome."
When things got to this point, the real politicians of the anti-Ming alliance countries couldn't stand it any longer.
What was originally supposed to be a discussion about the seating of the council turned into a debate on Roman orthodoxy.
If this continues, it will only cause the anti-Ming alliance to split in advance, and it must be controlled.
British Prime Minister Peter took two steps forward and borrowed the topic currently under discussion to give Zhu Jingyuan a "borrowing force":
"The Netherlands was once part of the Holy Roman Empire, and Spain and Portugal were once part of Rome.
"Part of our country, Britain, and much of the Ottoman Empire were also conquered and ruled by Rome.
"The southern coast of the Mediterranean, including Egypt and the Sinai Peninsula, as well as the Mesopotamia, were also once Roman territories.
"But among these countries and regions, you are the only outsiders who occupy the Sinai Peninsula.
"All European countries on our scene are successors to the Roman Empire, and are now members of the Anti-Ming Alliance.
"So, our anti-Ming alliance is Rome, it is Rome now, we are all Rome!"
The cadence of what Peter said was very powerful in both voice and content.
Representatives from other countries and the royal family at the scene were completely silent after listening, and they were obviously infected by his words.
Zhu Jingyuan was also quite emotional after hearing this. Obviously, these politicians would not watch him provoke at will.
But Zhu Jingyuan also knew that many things are not dependent on human will.
Especially when one's own side is stronger and is not prepared to reason properly, many techniques are useless.
"well said!"
Zhu Jingyuan admired sincerely and stood up at the same time.
Other representatives of the Ming Dynasty, as well as representatives of all vassal states and imperial villages, immediately stood up collectively and looked at Zhu Jingyuan together.
Zhu Jingyuan stretched out his hand and pointed to the location beside him:
"I invite Mr. William Pitt, First Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, to represent Rome and take your seat here."
The formation represented by Ming Dynasty, coupled with Zhu Jingyuan's inviting words, directly made Peter feel powerless.
Because he simply couldn't, or even dared, go and sit next to Zhu Jingyuan.
Before attending the meeting, all representatives of the Anti-Ming Alliance had been specially educated by Mingxue experts in Taixi.
This layout of the scene is the layout of the imperial meeting in the Ming Dynasty, and the same is true for the daily morning court.
Zhu Jingyuan's current position is similar to that of a monarch and a sect leader.
Zhu Jingyuan represented the Ming Dynasty with his imperial grandson, so he had no problem sitting there.
But what can he do about William Pitt?
He himself is just a British minister, and he is allowed to sit on the throne of the monarch representing Rome in front of a group of European princes and the emperor's younger brother?
This is a typical Eastern style of "praising and killing".
The point is, even if it were the British Crown Prince, the Prince of Wales would not be able to sit there.
Britain said it was the organizer of the Anti-Ming Alliance, but it was just an organizer.
All the countries in the Anti-Ming Alliance were roughly equal, at least there was no gap between the suzerains and their vassals.
The other anti-Ming alliance countries were not vassals of Britain.
If an English prince were to take the seat representing the Roman monarch, it would indicate that the alliance would be disbanded on the spot.
Several representatives of the Tessie court, including Peter, were aware of this problem.
Then I instinctively lamented in my heart: Rome, Rome, the Rome of us Europeans, why is it gone?
Oh, by the way, it seems that our ancestors did it.
If Rome was still there, there would be nothing to do with us England, France, Lucia, and the Ottomans.
Does this mean that we are really barbarians?
Zhu Jingyuan, who was opposite him, looked at Peter standing still and immediately put on a confused expression:
"What's wrong? Mr. Peter? Come here quickly?"
Peter shook his head feebly and said:
"It's inappropriate for me to sit there."
Zhu Jingyuan said very unexpectedly:
"What you are saying is that you have objections to the location of our venue and do not allow me to sit alone in the master's seat.
"Now the main seat will be given to you, Taixi, and we will each occupy one side. You should be able to accept this position layout, right?
"You, Prime Minister Pete, are the organizer of the Anti-Ming Alliance and the actual person in charge of the work. Isn't it natural that you should come and sit here?"
Peter could only helplessly shake his head and refuse again:
"I am not the monarch of Rome, let alone the monarch of Europe. I am just the coordinator of daily affairs of the alliance. I am not qualified to sit there."
Zhu Jingyuan looked at all the Thai and Western representatives with wide eyes:
"Then who can represent the monarch of Rome? Who can represent you Europeans and sit next to me?"
Representatives from various countries in Thailand and Spain were silent, and several royal representatives wanted to speak but did not dare to speak.
In the end, it was Pete who had to deal with it himself, changing the subject as much as possible:
"No one can represent this, but now is not the time to discuss Rome.
"This is an internal matter within Europe and has nothing to do with the Ming Dynasty and its vassal states from the east.
"We now need to determine the layout of the formal negotiation site and the seating issues."
Zhu Jingyuan ignored Peter's change of topic and sighed long and sadly:
"It seems that Rome is indeed gone..."
The representatives of the royal families of various countries in Thailand and the West had very complicated emotions when they heard Zhu Jingyuan's emotion.
Several young people were a little excited and wanted to go up and declare that they wanted to be the representatives of Rome.
However, the rationality of most people, as well as the court representatives around a few people, respectively hindered their actions.
Then everyone looked at Zhu Jingyuan, who said very melancholy:
"Come here, please remove this chair..."
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Chapter 112: Rome is probably gone. Free reading.
