"If you just want to say this, Ambassador Chen, then please come back." Songtsen Gampo stood up directly.
"Your Majesty, please be patient. Since Your Majesty doesn't want to hear the truth, let's talk about other things." Chen Xuanzang smiled and then said: "I want to ask Your Majesty a question. I wonder if Your Majesty can give it to me." I have an answer."
"Tell me about it first." Songtsen Gampo didn't give him a good look.
"Your Majesty, you can be regarded as the king of Tubo. I want to know, Your Majesty, what is your ideal? Or a dream, or something you want to do." Chen Xuanzang changed the subject.
"What do you mean?" Songtsen Gampo frowned.
"I just want to have a chat with His Majesty and want to know His Majesty's ambitions. I wonder if Your Majesty can answer?" Chen Xuanzang asked seriously.
Songtsen Gampo frowned, then fell silent, ideal? dream? Songtsen Gampo was the one who inherited the position relatively early, but in fact to this day, he has had both ideals, dreams and ambitions.
But in fact, when he was most ambitious, he never thought about anything too extreme. In fact, his ideals have always been very vague, and he just wanted to make Tubo stronger.
But he has never had a concept of how powerful this kind of power is.
Until Li Shimin, the Heavenly Khan of the Tang Dynasty, was born, it could not be said that he was born out of nowhere. To be precise, not long after Songtsen Gampo succeeded to the throne at the age of twelve, Li Shimin had just become emperor for two years.
But in the next few years, he had just pacified the entire Tubo, but Li Shimin was already the Khan of Heaven, the Khan of Heaven that was respected by all the countries around the Tang Dynasty, including the nomads!
Songtsen Gampo grew up more mature than many people. After all, he began to unify Tubo after he succeeded to the throne, so he knew very well how difficult it was. Not to mention becoming like Li Shimin.
It is also because of this that Songtsen Gampo actually has some admiration for Li Shimin in his heart, and this is also the reason why he admires the Central Plains culture very much, because the teachers who taught him knowledge also studied the Central Plains culture.
As for his subsequent attempts to marry the Princess of the Tang Dynasty, whether it was his personal obsession or not, overall he still admired the Tang Dynasty in his heart.
As for ideals and the like, if you said he had ever thought about developing Tubo to be as powerful as the Tang Dynasty, then he must have thought about it.
But just thinking about it, he knew very well that he couldn't do it, and the safety of Tubo was in many cases due to its unique geographical location. Chen Xuanzang was not wrong at all on this point.
Take the current Tubo as an example. It is located on the continent of Tianzhu. The Tubo people obviously have stronger military power and quality. The combat effectiveness of those Tianzhu people is simply indescribable.
But their casualties were still considerable.
At this time, Songtsen Gampo realized how huge convenience Tubo's original unique geographical environment provided Tubo.
Because the Tubo people have lived above it for generations, those who cannot adapt to the environment have long since died, and those who survive have adapted to the environment, but this is not the case for the enemies who try to attack them.
When they came to Tubo land, they had to reduce their combat effectiveness by at least one-third.
"There is nothing that cannot be said. I want to build Tubo into a powerful country." Songtsen Gampo said with a serious face.
Chen Xuanzang laughed when he heard this. He looked at Songtsan and preached: "Then, does your Majesty know what is needed as the foundation for a strong country?"
Songtsen Gampo frowned. He didn't want to answer this kind of question, and he wasn't asked to be tested by the other party.
However, Chen Xuanzang seemed to have seen through his thoughts. Chen Xuanzang did not expect him to answer, but continued directly: "If a country can be called strong, then it is necessary for the country to be rich and the people to be strong. If the country is to be rich and the people are strong, the entire country must be strong." There must be a stable environment, that is to say, at least the whole country must be united, this is necessary, right?”
Songtsen Gampo paused and nodded: "That's right."
"Well, Your Majesty, do you think the current Tibetans are united? Or don't talk about the present, let's talk about the old Tubo? Are the upper and lower units united? In the old Tibet, millions of Tibetan people were really on your side, Your Majesty. ? If it were true, then they wouldn’t think of rebelling.”
"They will not directly choose to join the Tang Dynasty after the rebellion. Because they just want to live a good life with enough food and warm clothes. The Tang Dynasty can give them such a good life, but Tubo cannot. On this point, as the former supreme leader of Tubo, Your Majesty, you should know better than me."
"Your Majesty, you should know what the living conditions of the former Tibetan serfs were like and what they were like in the hearts of the Tibetan nobles." Chen Xuanzang said.
Songtsen Gampogan was silenced by his words. Could Songtsen Gampo not know? Of course he knows, of course he knows what life is like for the lower-class serfs. Otherwise, why would these serfs rebel? Isn't it because the Tubo nobles did not regard serfs as human beings?
Then today's situation emerged, which is why after he stabilized here, he immediately started to follow the Datang's reform method and carry out reforms according to the Datang's reform method.
The results of the past two years of reform made Songtsen Gampo understand that he was on the right track, because the current Tubo ability to quickly gain a foothold here is inseparable from the policies he implemented.
Not only that, many people from the Harsha Dynasty next door secretly came to them because of their policies.
"You are right." Songtsan Gumbo nodded and admitted.
"In this case, the current policies of the Tang Dynasty are better for the people than those of Tubo. The Tang Dynasty does not even collect agricultural taxes, and it does not lower the price of food for the people to ensure their income, and the army is every day Everyone has monthly money.”
"Which do you think ordinary people prefer?" Chen Xuanzang asked with a smile.
Songtsen Gampo: "..."
"Of course, the reason why a country exists is not only its policies, but also the feelings of family and country. But now the people of Tubo don't seem to have a strong sense of belonging to Tibet." Chen Xuanzang added.
Can it be strong? How many years has it been since Tibet gained a foothold here? Do you want these people to fight for Tibet? It's not impossible, but then you have to look at who you fight, the Harsha Dynasty. They will definitely fight bravely because they know what it is like to be ruled by the Harsha Dynasty, and they don't want to live like that.
But with Datang?
For a moment, Songtsen Gampo felt that what Chen Xuanzang said... seemed to be quite reasonable.
There will be no leave in August and no interruptions.