Among the six ministers, which one is not a human being? As soon as Zhan Hui finished speaking, they knew clearly in their hearts that even the minister of the Ministry of Industry, Yan Zhen, was in trouble, saying: "The cabinet department is the place where the government affairs of the court are handled, and the stakes are big. It requires a lot of experience and must not be careless.
Nowadays, His Majesty is presiding over major military and state affairs, working day and night, and it is a great honor for us ministers to share His Majesty's worries. The Six Ministries have always been good at handling these complicated affairs, and now it is justifiable to select officials from the Six Ministries to join the Cabinet. "
The polite words that Ying Guogong Fu Youde said earlier had an effect now, and they blocked some of the sarcastic words of the six ministers in disguise.
Yan Zhenzhi originally planned to directly say that the generals were not knowledgeable enough and their skills were not good enough. However, after the previous confrontation, Fu Youde had already made it clear in advance. If he mentioned it again now, it would be inappropriate to reach out and hit the smiling man.
Therefore, he changed his statement. Since the Six Ministries are good at handling these, why can't they all be Six Ministries officials?
There is really nothing controversial about such a legitimate matter. You military generals can just resign as soon as possible. Why are you still arguing here?
Although what Yan Zhen said bluntly was not unpleasant, his conversation was full of an inexplicable sense of superiority. Dingyuan Marquis Wang Bi responded and retorted: "According to Master Yan's statement, in the future, the Japanese pirates in the southeast and the Japanese in the north will The remnants of the Hu Yuan Dynasty and the demons from all over the country are causing trouble, and it is all left to you, the Six Ministries. Why do you need us guys to go into battle? Isn’t there a Ministry of War among the Six Ministries? If something like this happens, the officials of the Ministry of War will roll up their sleeves and rush forward. We are also behind, so we can have a good look at what you adults are capable of."
Shen Xu, the Minister of War, frowned and said: "The command of troops in combat has always been a matter under the jurisdiction of the Governor's Office of the Five Armies. When did it come under the jurisdiction of the Six Ministries? What is being discussed now is the Cabinet Ministry. Why does Dingyuan Marquis get involved in these matters?"
"Since Mr. Shen knows that the Governor's Office of the Five Armies also needs to participate in military and political affairs, why are you still bothering with personnel here? Do you think, sir, that there will be only civil servants in the world and no generals? Or do you think this military battle can already be done? Let it go and don’t have to worry about him anymore?”
Wang Bi's speaking out about this matter has a lot to do with Zhu Yuanzhang's military and political institutions.
The Fifth Army Governor's Mansion is independent of the Six Ministries, but it is closely related to the Ministry of War. The relationship between the two is generally mutually reinforcing and inimical.
The Ministry of War has the power to appoint and remove generals, promote and train the army, but it cannot command the army to fight.
Although the Fifth Army Governor's Office has the functions of commanding troops in combat, managing farmland, controlling military status, and selecting generals, it does not have the power to dispatch troops.
In this way, Zhu Yuanzhang firmly controlled the general power in his own hands by controlling the Ministry of War.
At the same time, it also prevented the army's combat effectiveness from declining due to civilians taking charge of the army.
Just as Wang Bi said, the Fifth Military Governor's Office, as an independent institution, has the right to participate in the discussion of major military and political affairs. Now that the Cabinet Ministry has been established, is it possible that it only talks about political affairs and not military affairs?
He cleverly seized on the loopholes in his words, took advantage of the existing system, and launched a death question. Even Zhan Hui found this quite difficult.
Zhan Huiwan did not expect that these rough guys would also start to play tricks on them. In fact, their behavior was very different from usual. He realized that it was absolutely impossible to prevent these guys from participating in the cabinet.
If they really want to stop it, they are clearly provoking the political system created by Zhu Yuanzhang. They would not dare to do this kind of death-seeking behavior even if they have ten courages.
Therefore, Zhan Hui had to say: "We are not saying that military generals will not be allowed to participate in the cabinet, but the number of personnel needs to be considered, and there must be a suitable charter, right?"
Liang Guogong Lan Yu found an opportunity and interjected: "This is not simple. It's 50-50. You can't have more and we have less. This is not fair."
Shen Shu retorted: "Now that the world is at peace and the people are determined, war cannot be talked about lightly. Most of the things that the cabinet has to deal with are civil affairs and people's livelihood. These require specialized people." "Foreign Reserve said upper left" in "Han Feizi", "The Doctor Bian Que Meets King Wu of Qin" in "Warring States Policy" all illustrates this truth. A teacher who never forgets the past and the future can learn from history as a guide to gain and lose!"
"The sage once said: I am not born with knowledge. I am fond of the ancients and am quick to seek knowledge. When we followed His Majesty in the wars in the north and south, weren't we all illiterate in Chinese characters? We didn't even know how to arrange our troops. That's not possible, won't you learn everything later?
I think that His Majesty is willing to give us this opportunity because he values us and wants us to learn from you adults about the governance of the country. As people get older and their minds have settled down, they can learn more, otherwise an old guy like me will really end up in a coffin. "
In the name of learning, Fu Youde first brought up the words of saints, and then brought up his early experiences, which made Zhan Hui and others feel troubled.
This old guy kept talking about his early years with His Majesty, and they had no excuse to refute him. If he really wanted to say something rude, wouldn't that be slandering His Majesty? Who is so bold?
Zhan Hui was depressed, originally thinking that in this dispute of words, their group of civil servants still had a great advantage.
Unexpectedly, the other side would always bring up saints, talk about His Majesty at every turn, or simply bring up the existing military and political system.
None of these three could be refuted by Zhan Hui and others. They were equivalent to verbal quarrels from the opposite side, and they could only guard against them in embarrassment.
After such a quarrel, the civil servants were rarely defeated, and the personnel of the cabinet were settled. It was just like Lan Yu said, 50-50.
This result was beyond Zhu Gaochi's expectation. He thought that the reason why he could have a seven or three opening was because of the extraordinary performance of the military generals. He did not expect that Ying Guogong had such a foundation and sharp tongue, which surprised him.
After everything was settled, Zhu Gaochi took the memorial to see Zhu Yuanzhang. After he nodded, he told Zhu Yuanzhang one by one what had happened before.
He sat at Zhu Yuanzhang's feet, somewhat puzzled, and said, "Grandpa Huang, this time the civil servants are so deflated, it really surprises my grandson."
Zhu Yuanzhang put down the memorial and said with a smile: "Those old guys are smart and carry us out at every turn. Do Zhan Hui and the others dare to talk to us?"
"Grandpa Huang, you mean that this discussion seems to be a battle between military generals and civil servants, but it is actually a battle between you and the civil servants?"
Zhu Gaochi was thoughtful, his eyes lit up, and he said: "So, this is your credit, Grandpa Huang!"
"Gao Chi, don't underestimate these ministers. They are all ghosts and ghosts. If you don't have the ability, they will dare to bite you. This old guy Fu Youde also knows this, so he often takes advantage of us. Use your reputation to suppress Zhan Hui and the others, otherwise this matter will cause a lot of noise."
"I heard Duke Ying mentioned saints..."
"The saint is of no use. He has been dead for thousands of years and is just a tattered talisman to tell the truth. These ministers have no chance. If they really have a chance, they wish that the saint was themselves.
Gao Chi, you have to understand that what we rely on to conquer and dominate the world is not some bullshit saint, but real swords and real spears, which are fought out of blood and fire!
We now rule the world, then this saint is our saint. If Chen Youliang rules the world, then he is his family's saint.
You are very smart and kind, but you must not be pedantic and imitate your father, who is thick-faced and dark-hearted. "
Zhu Gaochi scratched his head when he heard this, smiled naively, and said, "My grandson understands."
As he said that, Zhu Gaochi remembered that the cabinet department had not yet been officially named, so he asked: "Grandpa Huang, now that the regulations of the cabinet department have been issued, what do you think we should call it?"
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