Hearing Zhao Xin's proposal, Orlov nodded and said: "I completely agree, then I request that we explain it first."
So Earl Gold stood up, opened a red leather folder, and began to read aloud, while the translator Agafonov translated in Beijing Mandarin.
"In compliance with the orders and authorization of Her Majesty Queen Catherine II Alexeyevna, I, as a representative of the Foreign Affairs Council of the Russian Empire, would like to propose to you the following terms..."
Generally speaking, Tsarist Russia's demands are three points: first, the two sides cease fighting, the Northern Navy returns to the east of Nerchinsk and south of the Kyaktu River, and the two sides return to the Ergun River as the dividing line; second, Release all Russian prisoners of war; third, compensate the damaged towns and civilian lives and property in a total amount of 10 million gold rubles.
How did you say something? The cooked duck has a tough mouth.
Orlov had been carefully observing his opponent's expression when the Count Mother Gold was speaking. He found that the expression on the face of "His Royal Highness Zhao" was very calm, with no trace of contempt or anger. He nodded every time after listening to Agafonov's translation, and seemed very educated.
However, he knew very well that the man in front of him had personally ordered one of Count Jacobi's hands to be chopped off as punishment for instigating the invasion of the Amur River Basin.
The young officers sitting on both sides of Zhao Xin all had serious expressions and expressionless faces, but the occasional slightly raised corners of their mouths revealed their true attitudes. Orlov understood that it was naked contempt. He didn't find this strange at all. If the positions of the two parties were exchanged, I'm afraid he would be even more proud at this moment.
As a former military general, Orlov had carefully observed the Northern Navy on the street when he entered the city and stayed there yesterday; he concluded that this was a group of extremely well-trained soldiers. The uniform military uniforms, sophisticated weapons, short and powerful commands, as well as their pace and posture when standing guard and patrolling, all convinced Orlov that these people were definitely the elite of the elite, even compared with the Queen's Guards. Favorably.
He didn't think the North Navy was just showing off, because this also exactly explained how a force of only more than 10,000 people defeated Rumyantsev's army.
"We all understand what you mean. Now, on behalf of the North Navy, I will propose armistice conditions to you..."
After Count Mu Jin finished speaking, Sheng Haizhou, who was the acting chief of staff of the North Navy, stood up, also holding a folder, and then started reading. In order for the translator Agafonov to hear clearly and translate truthfully, Sheng Haizhou did not speak very fast.
The attitude of the Northern Navy is that the Tsarist Empire invades first, and the Northern Navy is to defend its inherent territory. Secondly, it is an established fact that the North Navy pushed the border to the Yenisey River through two wars. Regarding the release of prisoners of war, Sheng Haizhou pointed out that Tsarist Russia needs to pay compensation, totaling 20 million gold rubles. This money will be used to compensate the Daur ethnic groups who were killed along the Amur River.
"Absolutely ridiculous! Now you are invading our territory!" Everyone in the Tsarist Russian mission had very ugly expressions on their faces, showing expressions of indignation. Earl Gold even slapped the table.
"Gentlemen, this is just like your war with the Turks. Are you willing to withdraw from the Crimean Peninsula and Georgia?"
Orlov shook his head and said: "This is different. The Crimean Khanate was originally a vassal state of the Russian Empire. We sent troops to resist the Turks to help Shaheen Khan. As for Georgia, we did it to protect its territorial integrity. and religious beliefs.”
"If you insist on saying that," Zhao Xin chuckled twice, then spread his hands and said, "Siberia is also China's inherent territory."
Orlov smiled instead of getting angry: "Oh? What evidence do you have?"
Zhao Xin did not intend to mention the Golden Horde, it was meaningless at all. He smiled and said: "From the Yenisei River to Baikal, and then to the Lena River, these place names are either Ewenki or Mongolian. Isn't this the most powerful evidence? My dear count, there are many ethnic groups in China, including the Evenki, Be it the Buryat Mongols, they are all part of China. The more than one hundred years since you expanded from west to east was a period when China was weakened by war and had no time to look north."
Orlov shook his head and said: "What you said, Your Highness, just proves that these lands are Tatar territory and have nothing to do with China."
"Oh? Don't forget, the people you call Buryats are actually Mongolians. I think Tushetu Khan of Khalkha has a say in this."
Earl Mu Jin felt that there was a loophole in Zhao Xin's words, so he said: "As far as we know, whether they are the Khalkha Mongols or the Tushetu Khan tribe, they are all subjects of the Qing Empire. Regarding the Buryats and The boundaries between the two sides have been clarified in the Treaty of Nerchinsk, the Treaty of Brunsky, the Abahayitu Boundary Treaty and the Selenge Boundary Treaty signed by our country with the Qing Empire! If your Excellency If you don’t mind, I would like to invite Qing representatives to participate in this negotiation.”
Zhao Xin knew that the other party wanted to muddy the waters. The treaties the other party mentioned actually only regulated the issues of borders, escapees and trade, and did not involve the issues of the Buryat people.
What's more, during the Kangxi and Yongzheng eras, they were eager to resolve the northern border issue because they had to deal with the Junggar issue. Therefore, Russia used a combination of negotiation methods and threats of force to force the Qing government to make concessions, and occupied a large area of Chinese territory in the northern part of Tangnu Uryanghai through the "Brenschi Treaty".
He sneered and said: "Earl, let's not talk about whether I agree to let the Manchus join the negotiations. Do you think they dare to come?"
Count Mujin fell silent. The Foreign Affairs Committee of the Tsarist Russian Senate confirmed from many sources from Khalkha, Mongolia and Central Asia that the Manchu and Qing Dynasties had fought many battles with the Northern Navy in recent years, and they were defeated in just four words.
This is so damned! How dare these guys who call themselves "Serysians" go to war with two empires at the same time? ! How many troops do they have?
The first day of talks ended with the two sides "setting the tone."
Negotiations between countries have always been like this. No one will put themselves in the position of the weak right from the beginning. The first thing to do is to open the lion's mouth and ask for a high price. During the negotiation process, in addition to adhering to the core principles, some other terms will also be involved, so that there is room for bargaining. Afterwards, through repeated negotiations to determine the other party's bottom line, exchange interests, and finally achieve the purpose of the negotiation.
The way he slaps the table as soon as he comes up, shows his teeth and claws, and shouts that you can beat me if you have the ability is just a joke. What cannot be obtained on the battlefield cannot be obtained at the negotiation table, and Beihai Town, as the victor, does not need to do this.
So after the two sides made their bottom line clear and negotiations went nowhere, they started wrangling over the long border matter. For example, do criminals from both sides need to be extradited? How should they be extradited? Should border trade be done? How should it be done? Where should the trading points be located? etc.
For Beihai Town, the goal has been achieved by reaching the Yenisei River. All that remains is to strengthen preparations for military struggle, defend this line of defense, and then secretly support the "Cossack Emirate".
As for the Tsarist Empire, it will have to wait until the war with the Turks is over before it can free its hands. In addition to trying to find out the details of their opponents through negotiations, Orlov and the others also wanted to prevent the North Navy from continuing to expand westward through negotiations before the next war.
The negotiations between Beihai Town and the Russian Empire began on February 5, 1791, and lasted for more than a month in total, and did not end until March 10. Zhao Xin only showed up on the first and last days, and the rest was handed over to Sheng Haizhou, Li Rui and others. During the period, the two sides had many quarrels and broke up. It was common for the Russian representatives to slap the table and roll up their sleeves. There are times when everyone drinks vodka and chats about family matters.
Although Zhao Xin did not participate in the entire negotiation, he has been controlling the pace of the negotiations from behind.
At the same time, another negotiation was also going on quietly. The two parties were Fan Tong of the North Navy and representatives of Tushe Tuhan Chedendorzi.
After more than half a year of consideration, especially after learning that the Northern Navy had driven Tsarist Russia to the west of the Yenisei River, Tushetu Khan, who was deeply afraid of the strength of the Northern Navy, decided to let his son Erdob Dorzi represent him. Buying City and Fan Tong started formal contact. The two sides communicated on many aspects such as the future status of Khalkha Mongolia and the issue of Jebzundamba.
However, due to the principled differences between the two parties in pursuing their goals, this was destined to be a fruitless negotiation. Not to mention coming once, even if Chedendorji himself came, it would be useless.
For example, Cheden Dorji is not so much a Khan, but actually an alliance leader with the title of Prince Heshuo. Before the 45th year of Qianlong's reign, the alliance leaders had no real power. They were only responsible for convening and presiding over the alliance. The real management of various affairs within the alliance fell to the Manchu generals stationed in Uliasutai - Dingbian Zuo. In the hands of the deputy general, he also reported it to the Lifan Yuan for verification.
After the 45th year of Qianlong's reign, the power of the alliance leader to handle affairs increased. Generally, flag affairs did not need to be reported to Deputy General Dingbianzuo, but only to the Lifan Yuan. Deputy General Dingbianzuo only played a supervisory role.
However, Eyiduob Dorji proposed to Fan Tong that his father not only wanted to retain the title and treatment of Prince Heshuo, but also wanted to further restore the khan power-that is, to withdraw the people from the alliance flag establishment.
You said you were not kidding, did you really take Beihai Town for a fool?
After Fan Tong stayed in Kyaktu for the past few years, he had a comprehensive understanding of the situation in various ministries in Outer Mongolia by wooing the Shanxi merchant groups in the trading city. He knew that Cheden Dorji and his son wanted to restore their past transcendent status as a single Khan, so he decisively refused.
In fact, regarding the governance of Outer Mongolia, the issue of "forced apportionment according to the number of arrows" has been completely eliminated, and the other measures are strict and effective.
Fan Tong told Eyiduob Dorji that after the Northern Navy enters Khalkha Mongolia, the annual "Nine White Tributes" will be exempted. At the same time, the service system imposed on the various ministries in Outer Mongolia during the Manchu and Qing Dynasties will be cancelled, and the ministries will be exempted from arrows. The debt incurred by Ding Zheyin. In addition, the alliance flag system will definitely be retained, but it will need to be changed.
Eryiduobudorji didn't care much about the "Nine White Tributes". Being able to get rid of the servants really relieved him of his worries. He was happy and asked: "May I ask how to change the alliance flag?"
"An administrative office was set up at the league level, and the chief officer was called a commissioner. A county government was set up at the banner level. Zasak abolished it and changed it to the county magistrate."
"What?!" Eryi Dobdorzi's expression changed after hearing this, and he almost jumped up and asked, "What should I do with those Taiji Beile?"
Fan Tong laughed and said: "In the future, Taijis from all banners who want to enter the county government must go to Beihai Town to study for a year and become familiar with the management system and methods. The county magistrate rotates every three years and is openly selected. There is no hereditary replacement. Lifetime tenure will also be eliminated.”
"You and your Ama took the initiative to contact us. Your sincerity and attitude are worthy of recognition. According to Zhao Xin, oh no, King Zhao means, he can be given a position as a senior official in Mobei Province to assist the senior official in managing Khalkha affairs. . Considering that your Ama is old, if you want to take over, you will have to go to Beihai Town to study for two years. "
"Study further? What does this mean? Is it the same as going to Beijing to meet Emperor Qianlong?"
"No, study. Beihai Town's system and governance methods are completely different from those of the Manchu and Qing Dynasties. To be a manager, you must study first."
Eyiduobu Dorji's face turned black after hearing this. He thought to himself that he is already in his thirties and still has to chew books. Wouldn't it be better to have time to drink and eat meat?
Although he didn't understand what the official position of "senior official" was, there was another "senior official" above him who understood it. Don't say it, it must be just a decoration. This made his originally fiery thoughts turn cold and cold, and he thought it would be better to continue kowtowing to Emperor Qianlong!
As for the conditions of Beihai Town, not to mention that it is impossible for his father and his son to agree to it, even the Taijis of various banners would not agree to it even to death. Zasak can no longer be the leader, and there is a useless "county government". Forget it, Beihai Town wants to take over all the flag affairs.
The most important thing is that the honor and dignity of "hereditary disregard" are gone. How can everyone continue to be a master in the future? This is not a restructuring, this is to dig out the roots of the princes and nobles!
By this time, Eryi Dobdorzi had no intention of talking anymore. But before leaving, he asked Fan Tong to approve the note and went to Beihai Trading Company to buy a lot of cigarettes and alcohol. In his opinion, although Beihai Navy is not a thing, the things they sell are really good.
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"It is the duty of the new dynasty to eliminate the servants and forgive the tens of thousands of taels of silver debt. But they still want to set up an office on the alliance flag to directly intervene in the flag affairs. It is simply too much!"
A few days later, the cunning Chedendorji listened to his son's complaints and said nothing for a long time. He knew that his plan had failed. The emperor of the Qing Dynasty had only taken away his power, while Beihai Town wanted to dig out his roots.
What kind of high-ranking officials are you lying to? Without the hereditary and irreplaceable superiority, from now on the Golden Family will be inferior to the grassland grassland.
Two days later, the thoughtful Chedendorji paid a visit to Songyun, the minister of affairs in Kulun. He proposed to Songyun that he hoped to jointly petition the imperial court as soon as possible to allow the four Khalkha tribes to form an alliance, with the intention of jointly negotiating how to deal with the eagerly awaited Beihai Town.
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