Zhu Qiyu followed the voice and looked over. It was Jiang Yuan, the Minister of Punishment.
Among the six ministries today, only the Ministry of Personnel and the Ministry of Rites and the Shangshu are in charge.
Among the remaining four ministries, Wang Zuo, the Minister of Household Affairs, and Kuang Ye, the Minister of War, all died in the civil war. Shi Pu, the Minister of Works, and Jin Lian, the Minister of Punishments, had gone with the army to Zhejiang and other places to suppress the rebellion years ago.
Therefore, the Ministry of War, the Ministry of Household Affairs, and the Ministry of Punishment are now all decided by the Minister.
Jiang Yuan's words can basically represent the stance of the Ministry of Justice under the current circumstances.
Among the six departments, the two elders, Wang Zhi and Hu Hui, have seniority and weight, and would not express their opinions easily.
On the Metropolitan Procuratorate's side, Chen Yi and Yu Qian were on the same team, but as one of the Seven Qings, he had to be on guard against the attitudes of Wang Zhi and Hu Hui, and he could not make his attitude clear too early.
Therefore, the only ones who can be considered to have clear attitudes now are the Ministry of War represented by Yu Qian, Dali Temple represented by Yu Shiyue, and the Ministry of Justice represented by Jiang Yuan.
The remaining ones are the Ministry of Household Affairs, the Ministry of Industry and the Hanlin Academy.
The situation of the Ministry of Industry is quite special. Minister Shi Pu left Beijing years ago, and Liu Zhongfu, the Minister of Affairs of the Ministry of Industry, is in charge.
But in July this year, Liu Zhongfu's old mother died of illness, and he had to control Ding You. And because the emperor's personal expedition was about to take place, the Ministry of Works was temporarily in charge of a doctor.
Although I was able to attend because of my position in charge, there was really no room for discussion among a group of big men in scarlet robes who were above the third rank.
On the Hanlin Academy side, Chen Xun and Gao Gu are the ones who call the shots.
Chen Xun had just expressed his stance. Gao Gu didn't say anything, but he had always been in step with Chen Xun.
So the one who has not expressed his attitude yet is the Ministry of Revenue.
The current person in charge of the Ministry of Household Affairs is Chen Yi, the minister.
This person has always been law-abiding and cautious in court.
Seeing that all the ministers in the palace agreed to reject it, Wang Zhi, Hu Hui, and Chen Yi, although they did not speak, did not object.
So, Chen Yi thought about it for a moment and said.
"I believe that at this time, everyone should be united. Although we want to save the emperor from danger, we should also send envoys to carefully discuss how to welcome the emperor back. We should not blindly listen to the thieves' words and disrupt our government and opposition."
What he said was in line with Shen Yi's style, and he couldn't offend either of them.
But the attitude is basically clear.
You can send envoys to negotiate, and if you can really save the emperor, you can also negotiate terms, but you can't just give in, let alone be blackmailed with every word.
Zhu Qiyu nodded.
Yu Qian, Jiang Yuan, and Shen Yi combined, three of the six films have already made their attitudes clear.
Get rid of the Ministry of Industry, which has no sense of existence, and add the Dali Temple, which is the only one with real power among the temple supervisors.
The six ministries and the temple supervisors have basically unified their opinions for the time being.
Of course, this is under the condition that nothing goes wrong on Wang Zhi and Hu Yan's side.
But as I said before, the two elders are very senior and carry a lot of weight, and they will not express their opinions easily until the end.
Then the remaining ones are the Imperial Academy, the Hanlin Academy and the Sixth Section.
On the Metropolitan Procuratorate's side, Chen Yi, the censor of Zuodu, must be in agreement with Yu Qian.
However, the Metropolitan Procuratorate has a special system, and each censor is very independent. Chen Yi can influence about one-third at most.
However, this time, all the officials in charge of the various ministries came to the meeting. Chen Yi only brought a few chief censors, who must also be close confidants, so there is no need to worry on the part of the Metropolitan Procuratorate.
On the Sixth Section, several people were hit by accidents and died in civil wars.
The rest was given to the ministers. Firstly, it was not enough, and secondly, during the previous discussion, they also agreed with Yu Qian's idea of not giving up the border town.
Although Zhu Qiyu knew that their ideas were very different from Yu Qian's, on this occasion, as long as other ministries agreed, they would not insist on opposing it.
Therefore, what is left in the end is the Hanlin Academy, which advocated trying its best to rescue the emperor from the beginning...
"Scholar Gao, now that the situation has become clear, the thieves have repeatedly demanded money and silk, and have threatened the emperor to seize our border town. What should we do about this matter? What do you think of Scholar Gao?"
Chen Xun and Gao Gu have always been in step with each other.
Above the court, the two of them often talked to each other.
Just now, Chen Xun expressed tactfully that he would try his best to rescue the emperor, but Gao Gu didn't say anything, just leaving some leeway.
So at this time, Zhu Qiyu directly called his name.
Gao Gu acts steadily, and more importantly, he once served as a lecturer at the Sutra Banquet, and can be regarded as half of the teacher of the current emperor.
If he can also stand with Zhu Qiyu, then the civil servants will basically be able to completely unify their attitudes.
But Gao Gu was obviously not so easily convinced, he pondered for a moment and said.
"Your Majesty is generous, but the thieves are cunning and greedy. They also lack the etiquette and teachings of saints. It is common for them to go back on their word, which is not the way to go."
Gao Gu is different from Li Yongchang. Yu Qian's words can stop Li Yongchang, but they can't stop Gao Gu.
As soon as the old man opened his mouth, he recognized him openly.
Wala just goes back on his words and doesn't mean what he says.
There is nothing to cover up, and it cannot be covered up. If you try to cover it up, you will make a joke like Li Yongchang.
"The land in the border town is the border defense line of the Ming Dynasty and cannot be lost."
Then, Gao Gu glanced at Yu Qian and partially confirmed his proposition.
But Zhu Qiyu knows that these are just foreshadowing, and the next step is the main topic...
As expected, Takagu continued.
"However, what the thieves are asking for now is nothing more than gold, pearls, money, and silk. Although you have broken your promise, no matter what, the emperor is still in the hands of the thieves. Once we completely reject their demands, how can we save the emperor?"
"Therefore, I think that if the thieves want gold, pearls, wealth, silk, jades and jewels, we will give them to them."
"Since the thieves know the identity of our emperor, it would be naive to say that a mere amount of money can send him back to the Holy Emperor."
"Gold, silver, wealth and silk can, on the one hand, stabilize the captives and ensure the emperor's safety; on the other hand, they can also declare to the captives our determination to welcome the emperor back in the Ming Dynasty."
"Only by sending envoys for peace talks in this way can we possibly save the emperor."
Takatani had obviously considered this matter carefully, and what he said was very organized.
Moreover, one sentence revealed the truth that most of the ministers in the palace knew but did not dare to tell.
That is, since the thieves held the Ming Emperor hostage, they must get enough benefits.
It is impossible to save the emperor without paying a price!
Of course, Takagu dared to speak so directly.
It was because he and Chen Xun were not only Hanlin bachelors, they also had the false titles of Minister of the Ministry of Personnel and Minister of the Ministry of Hubu respectively, so as to enter Zhiwen Yuan Pavilion.
In other words, the two of them are not only the officials in charge of the Hanlin Academy, but also the cabinet ministers.
With this level of status, their status in the court, although not as high as the Six Ministries and Seven Ministers, is still higher than that of ordinary ministers.
So there wasn't much emphasis on speaking.
It's not that others can't understand such penetrating analysis of the situation, it's that they can't say it.
Only high-ranking officials like Gao Gu and Yu Qian, who are at least six ministers or above, can point to the core of the problem so sharply without fear of criticism from others.
After Gao Gu's words, the atmosphere in the hall became a little stagnant.
Many ministers with low official positions, such as the minister from the Ministry of Industry who was only an official in attendance here due to special reasons, were a little confused.
In their eyes, the Six Ministries and Dali Temple have all expressed their attitudes. Although the Metropolitan Procuratorate has not spoken, there is a high probability that they support Yu Qian.
Although Prince Tan didn't say much, he was obviously leaning towards Yu Qian.
Under such a general trend, Gao Xueshi is really so stubborn that he must go against so many ministers?