As a top-notch science fiction writer in China and a top-notch science fiction writer in the world, Liu frequently participated in various official meetings in China.
This is the second time we have seen such a highly confidential meeting.
He went to the government for a meeting surrounding magic before, and the level of secrecy this time was similar to that one.
Sitting in a dark car without any communication equipment except clothes, the sound insulation effect of the car is quite good.
Da Liu felt a little uneasy. He guessed that he wanted to talk to him about the impact of virtual reality on society, and at most, to think about the future.
"Mr. Liu, you don't need to be nervous. This time, just like last time, we hope to use your rich experience in the field of science fiction to provide some guidance for our work."
Da Liuhan smiled and said, "I'm not panicking. I'm just afraid that I won't be able to meet your expectations of me."
"It's okay, I just hoped that you could serve as an inspiration to us.
It's best to have help, but it's okay not to have help.
Don't put too much pressure on yourself. "
Da Liu: “The questions I answered last time I took this car were not so casual.
I feel that each of those questions requires me to think for a long time before I can give a very superficial answer.
It was more difficult than writing my graduation thesis when I graduated from college. "
“This time it won’t be the same as last time, this time we will use dialogue.
When you arrive at the location, someone will come and have a chat with you.
The conversation will be recorded, please understand. "
The staff responsible for reception fell into silence after saying this.
Da Liu also stopped talking.
He is not a person who likes to talk.
Generally speaking, the author's desire to talk is all expressed in his works. In front of the camera, he may be trapped by his desire to express himself and talk more, but there are very few writers who talk much in private.
Rather than speaking with his mouth, Liu prefers to speak with his hands on the forum.
Da Liu's thoughts were scattered while sitting in the car, and he did not form a complete logic.
After arriving at the place and entering a poorly furnished room, a middle-aged man with a grimace sat across from Da Liu.
Looking at his face, you will feel that this man must have suffered a lot in the first half of his life. He is a typical middle-aged man from the bottom of China.
Naturally, Da Liu would not judge people by their appearance. The person who could sit here and talk to him could not be an ordinary person.
"Mr. Liu, I have admired you for a long time. I have always liked your works. I have read the Three Body Series of Light more than once. You can call me Mr. Chen."
Da Liu estimated that this surname was not the other party's real surname, but it didn't matter.
Because he knew that the chance to see the other party would only be here. After leaving this door, he would probably never see the man named Chen again in his life.
"Thank you for your appreciation. Thanks to readers, I am where I am today."
"I won't say more to be polite. Mr. Liu, the various awards and awards you have won, as well as your works published around the world, are enough to prove your strength.
I would like to ask a question, what do you think of the laws of the dark forest that you mentioned in The Three-Body Problem? "
Da Liu was a little surprised, but not that surprised: “This is just for service settings.
Although it seems reasonable, this is just my personal conjecture.
It cannot escape the limitations of my own understanding of the reality of the universe. "
Da Liu is very humble, and he really thinks so.
“I have repeatedly said in some outside interviews that I personally do not believe that the universe under the Dark Forest Law is the real universe.
The reason why it is constructed like this in The Three-Body Problem is because of plot needs.
The plot needs to be set up in this way so that the behavior of the three-body people can have a logical support.
Regarding the real situation of the universe, I think the possibilities can be roughly divided into three categories: one is the best possibility, one is neither good nor bad, and the third is the worst possibility.
In the first category, life in the universe is fully respected, and the universe has a unified and high moral law. My "Chao Wen Dao" and "Country Teacher" are about this type of universe.
The second type is similar to the earth. There is hatred and friendship between people and civilizations, and there is mutual help and mutual strife.
As for the worst universe, it is a universe with zero morality and zero-sum game, where the competition for survival rules everything.
In addition, there is a very simple reason why the Dark Forest Law was created, that is, it is easier to tell wonderful stories in a dark future. "
The middle-aged man sitting opposite continued to ask: "Now there is such a logic.
For alien civilizations whose technological level has reached a certain level, the only thing of value to them on a planet with intelligent life is knowledge.
Knowledge that their native civilization does not have, or does not know. "
Scientists within the Chinese officialdom have also conducted numerous discussions surrounding Zheng Li's remarks.
It’s not like everyone believed Zheng Li’s words without thinking.
There are many people who think Zheng Li is an alien with ulterior motives.
The reason why I approached Da Liu was because I hoped to get some inspiration from another perspective.
Da Liu thought about it and said:
“My personal opinion is that we need to look at how advanced the technology level of this civilization is?
From an overall perspective, I think that's right.
But to say it so absolutely, it still needs to be analyzed based on the specific situation.
For example, African countries have little basis for industrialization, yet they can be integrated into the entire Blue Star global economic system cycle.
For them, resources that can be cashed out immediately are more valuable than knowledge.
It takes time to implement knowledge.
For our country, knowledge is more valuable than resources. The knowledge here must be actual technical knowledge, not some theories.
The more technologically developed a country is, the stronger their demand for knowledge will be.
Even if it’s just the direction in which the technical route should be developed.
But the only thing of value here is knowledge.
There may also be bias.
Because I personally feel that, taking Blue Star as an example, Blue Star has millions of species resources. The genes and samples of these species should also be valuable, right?
For example, cats and dogs bred by Blue Star should be valuable in the universe.
In addition, if it is some relatively cruel civilization, for them, intelligent life itself may be regarded as a pet.
So only knowledge is valuable, which I think is a bit extreme. "
The middle-aged man continued to ask: "If the other party comes from hundreds of thousands of light years away, he can't take these resources away?"
Da Liu answered directly: "That depends on the communication technology and space transportation he has mastered.
For example, if the other party can contact the headquarters hundreds of thousands of light years away, then they can build a wormhole to Blue Star.
It may be hundreds of thousands of light-years away, and it will only take a dozen Blue Star Days to arrive. "
Liu's idea was also proposed by scientists within China.
But it was quickly rejected.
Just building a wormhole to Blue Star would cost enough to transform dozens of planets like Mars into Blue Stars.
It's simply not a good deal here.
Unless the soul has a special role.
An artificially constructed planet cannot give birth to a soul.
In fact, the experiment that China wants to do most is to see whether humans can get pregnant and successfully give birth in outer space, and whether the babies can grow up smoothly after delivery.
There is speculation within China that the planet with intelligent life is special.
Otherwise, the magic coin system will not only be related to the cosmic coordinates of planets with intelligent life.
Intelligent life will only be born on these planets.
Even if you transform the planet into a habitable planet and then immigrate intelligent life there, the intelligent life that immigrated to the past will not be able to give birth to normal offspring.
If this conjecture is confirmed, the importance of Blue Star will be greatly increased.
However, China has never found a suitable opportunity to carry out this experiment.
The middle-aged man did not refute Liu, he only asked questions:
“Do you think civilization must be a state of constant expansion and growth?
There is a saying that after the developed countries of Blue Star developed to a certain level, their population began to stop growing or even decreased, and there was no continuous growth trend. "
Da Liu said without hesitation: "Actually, regarding this phenomenon, when I wrote about the Three-Body Problem, the issue of negative population growth was not discussed much in society.
Later I looked back and thought about it, and here’s what I think.
If we regard Blue Star as a whole, a holistic civilization, then Blue Star is undoubtedly a trend of continuous expansion and growth.
Humanity's radiation boundaries have expanded to almost every corner of Blue Star.
In these years, our exploration boundaries have also expanded to the moon and Mars.
But for specific countries, this is not the case.
And what I'm talking about is just a phenomenon, not a theory.
Because Blue Star's true rapid development has only occurred in the past two hundred years.
Development in the past two hundred years has been faster than in the past 20,000 years.
Whether it will continue to expand and grow in the future, I honestly don’t know.
But one or two countries cannot represent an entire civilization. "
“Then what do you think of virtual reality technology, virtual reality technology in the true sense.
It's like a second world.
There is almost no difference from the real world at the macro level.
Whether it is smell, touch, hearing or vision, they are all close to reality, only taste may have some deviations.
If an alien life brings such technology to Blue Star, will the civilization and technological advancement it represents create a need for colonization of Blue Star? "
“First we need to clarify a few points.
The first is whether the alien life relied on himself to make it, or did he bring Blue Star's production equipment to make it.
There is an essential difference between the two.
For example, if I take a CNC machine tool to ancient times, and if I go back to ancient times and roll a CNC machine tool out, the difficulty of the two is hugely different.
Secondly, is the other party's status in the alien civilization an ordinary person or a scientist, or is it the top scientist, comparable to the Nobel Prize winner from Blue Star?
Finally, what is the social form of the other party's civilization?
You need to roughly understand these three points to know whether the other party will have colonization needs for Blue Star.
And it is possible that the other party’s civilization will not colonize Blue Star, but individuals will want to colonize Blue Star?
No matter how advanced the alien civilization is, a prosperous and habitable planet is still of great value to individuals, right?
In addition, virtual reality technology is only one aspect of technology.
Of course, if we can do this, the overall technical strength will certainly not be too weak.
There is no doubt that it is many years ahead of Blue Star.
It's just the opponent's skills that don't mean anything.
It is entirely possible that the other party needs virtual reality to allow its people to survive in the virtual world because of the lack of resources. "
The middle-aged man nodded and said: "What you said makes sense.
If it is true as you say, then how should we deal with such an enemy. "
“Anyway, the information I know is too limited and I can’t give a reliable answer.
Moreover, the answers I just gave were based on one-sided information and gave one-sided and not objective answers. "
After the middle-aged man asked some more questions, he finally asked:
"Mr. Liu, your answer is very valuable to us.
I will apply to disclose more information to you in the future, and I look forward to your more specific answers at that time.
It's just that you may briefly lose your personal freedom at that time.
When will you be ready and when will you give me an answer.
In addition, you are aware of the confidentiality regulations. The content of this chat cannot be spread from your side to the ears of any third party. "
For the Chinese government, Liu was a talent, but not to the point where he was indispensable.
If he is willing, that will give him the opportunity to join Zheng Li's research group.
If he refuses, just pretend it never happened.
"Star technology stocks fell across the board, Netflix () fell more than 13%, and Netflix's market value is less than 50 billion yuan."
“Chinese concept stocks rose collectively, with bilibili having the highest increase of more than 20%.”
In the Internet industry, many domestic companies are doing better than foreign companies.
Taking streaming media as an example, the user experience of Bilibili is undoubtedly much better than YouTube.
Ever since I learned about pre-roll ads, YouTube has been flooded with pre-roll ads. If you don’t have a membership, you have to watch the ads.
And I’ll give you a paragraph at the beginning, and another paragraph in the middle.
This advertising model seems to return to the early 21st century in China.
None of the film and television apps in China are doing this anymore, and YouTube has picked it up again.
Instead, Bilibili learned the YouTube model.
Even if Bilibili has a better user experience and no ads, the problem is that it doesn’t make money.
It has been losing money every year, and there is no hope of turning losses into profits until 2030.
The emergence of real idols has given investors hope for Bilibili.
The important reason why the number of paying users at Station B cannot increase is that the paid content is not rich enough.
When free content is converted into paid content, there is too much pressure from users and public opinion, and all kinds of competitors are eyeing it.
I really don’t dare to play like this.
Well now, after having real idols, the most important thing is content.
In fact, both Douyin and Bilibili are developing their own content platforms.
Not just video content, but written content as well.
Byte has always promoted its apps. Station B has also built its own platform.
Although they are not as good as Yuewen, as a film and television material library, there is absolutely no shortage of content.
