In fact, it is reasonable. An advertising song by Liu Qingshan can be sold for a sky-high price of 100 million. The quality and depth of "Victory" have a value that far exceeds that of pop music.
Xing Wei also hesitated to speak and reminded him from the side because he did not want Tang Liu Qingshan to suffer any loss.
It is not dedicated to the country, but provided to the National Symphony Orchestra in exchange for fame and commercial interests. The issue of copyright transfer must first be considered.
For Liu Qingshan, it is far more convenient for Xing Wei, as the intermediary, to directly raise his interests in this area than for him to raise it himself, and there is no need to be too secretive.
For Bao Qiming, the huge financial implications involved are definitely not what the current symphony orchestra is willing to pay, and even the state will not agree to this huge expenditure.
But he also knew very well that if this song "Victory" was clearly priced and sold through bidding to the whole world, it would definitely be a much larger number.
Therefore, he determined that since Liu Qingshan took it out at this time, he must have his own plans: "Liu Qingshan, I want to hear your thoughts first, I mean on the basis of first ensuring that our group has the permission to perform! "
This is a set of language skills he used. The implication is that the National Symphony Orchestra must have the right to use it.
Liu Qingshan smiled: "I think Viagra also said on the phone that I have a song that requires the cooperation of the symphony orchestra. The right to use this song is like an exchange of interests, but it has nothing to do with future commercial performances. Involved!”
"Well, just tell me your plan directly. I understand the reasoning behind it, and I can also appreciate the huge value."
Regarding Liu Qingshan's ability, Bao Qiming not only trusted his creations, but he was also one of the few shrewd people in the domestic entertainment industry when it came to how he operated.
"I think we will not discuss the issue of copyright transfer for now, but Xueyu Entertainment will invite your group to cooperate in recording this work. Currently, I have several scripts handed over to Hollywood film companies for production, and "Victory" will definitely It will be given to them first!”
In order to prove his ability to promote his works, Liu Qingshan did not hesitate to expose some of his business secrets.
In fact, it is not too secret. If you are interested in investigating these things, it is not difficult to find out, but he needs to deliberately create a mysterious effect.
"Are you saying that once Hollywood decides to use it, it will need to pay for the right to use the copyright? So you will make a fuss about this kind of performance rights? Leave us the authority to perform in the future?"
"Yes, all the copyrights are still in my hands, but your future performances must reflect the name of the film in the promotion. I think otherwise the Hollywood studio would not have signed the performance rights alone. Contractual.”
"So that's what happened! There's no problem with that. If our performance can borrow the fame of that movie, it would be a great thing! Let's talk about your personal needs!"
"My requirements are very low. I need a 30% share of every commercial performance, and it must be after-tax income!"
Bao Qiming's expression changed drastically at this time. He didn't expect Liu Qingshan to be so open-minded. He had thought about seeking certain economic benefits before and thought it was reasonable, but such a high share was beyond his expectation.
So he pondered for a while and said: "Now that it comes to this, I will tell you bluntly! This is purely commercial. I think not only our band will not agree, but our supervisory unit is the country, so of course it cannot be allowed. I don’t own any copyright for the works I perform, but I still have to give out such a large piece for each performance!”
"Then I have no choice. It's okay for me to contribute to the country for free, but there is a commercial demand for it to be used for commercial performances. I think this cooperation should be abandoned. At the worst, I would have to pay for a foreign orchestra. Come join the production!”
Hearing Liu Qingshan's decisive conclusion, Bao Qiming did not express his attitude clearly, and his subordinates lost their composure at first.
They were well aware of the importance of the piece, not to mention its associated value.
With the right to use it, the symphony orchestra can at least get a steady stream of overseas performance opportunities.
In fact, Bao Qiming still adheres to the inherent thinking of the older generation. The first thing he thinks about in everything is national interests. Selfless dedication has always been the most profound philosophy of this generation.
But there is a premise here. Liu Qingshan is not a member of the system, and the delivery of "Victory" will never be a voluntary performance.
Since they are both commercial activities, there is no doubt that equal commercial payments are required.
However, looking at this matter from Bao Qiming's perspective, exchanging personal or collective achievements has little to do with commercial interests. The biggest disagreement between the two parties is at this point.
If both sides cling to this tangled point and refuse to let go, cooperation will no longer be possible.
This is also the reason why the current very large state-owned enterprises cannot fully integrate with the market, and the same is true for units such as the National Symphony Orchestra.
If the units under the system cannot truly enter the market economy, there will be no mutual compromise between the two parties.
Because Liu Qingshan does not belong to any department and does not need to gain any merit to be promoted, he is not even afraid of being blocked by the domestic entertainment industry. Precisely because he understands the other party's lack of scruples, Bao Qiming does not dare to easily show off the dignity of his position within the system. .
The speaker this time was another middle-aged man named Zuo Lin, a director of the Finance Department: "Mr. Liu, don't worry, we will report this matter immediately, and the group will also meet immediately to study and strive for it. Give me a reply as soon as possible!"
Liu Qingshan smiled and spread his hands, indicating that he was not in a hurry to get angry, and stood up to fill the wine glasses of several people.
But he then said: "Then go back and discuss it with the relevant departments first. My attitude is that as long as I can guarantee that your group will not use it for commercial performances, my "Victory" can be donated to the country for free! If you want For external performances, we must abide by business rules and first consider my personal commercial needs. But although your symphony orchestra does not own any copyright, it can use it domestically for free, which can be regarded as a patriotic attitude on my part as a Chinese. !”
He is taking the initiative to make concessions and replace any previous commercial performances with domestic free performances.
Compared to Zuo Lin's attempt to fish in troubled waters, the impatient Liu Chengyi stood up directly and said, "I'll make a phone call and be right back!"
While Liu Qingshan smiled and nodded, he also noticed that when he passed by Bao Qiming, he didn't even glance at him.
When the man walked out of the room, Bao Qiming sighed: "This guy must be angry with me, thinking that I am being stupid again! Mr. Liu, of course I understand the main premise of the current market economy. For personal reasons After thinking about it, I may even think that the conditions you proposed are not outrageous, but unfortunately..." He pointed his hand towards the sky and let out another long sigh.
Xing Wei is one of the people who most hopes to promote this matter. This will not only bring his relationship with Liu Qingshan closer, but also help Bao Qiming solve a big problem.
There was a reason why he called Captain Bao Uncle. This person was not a duckweed with no foundation in Kyoto. Another uncle was an old leader of the cultural department. Although he had retired long ago, he was still a man when he first arrived. provided a lot of help.
Bao Qiming was introduced by his uncle. Later, the two parties collaborated several times, and the relationship naturally became closer and closer, and it was natural to treat each other as elders.
Therefore, he knew this person's temperament very well, so he explained to Liu Qingshan in a low voice; "Captain Bao's boss is a stubborn old man. Perhaps because he was from their band, he has been promoted for many years and still refuses to let go. He is It’s not easy to be the leader!”
Liu Qingshan immediately understood the twists and turns. Bao Qiming did not necessarily have much say in the group, and Liu Chengyi was not on the same line as him. He was calling his backer to ask for support.
But there was a reason why he insisted on having 20% of the members. When dealing with such a unit, what he was afraid of was the blind command from above, as well as all kinds of people who couldn't be separated no matter what.
Often, a team going abroad will continuously increase the number of places in the group since it establishes a project. When the group is actually formed and set off, the actual number of people will double.
If you are a person with professional skills, you have nothing to say, but the extra people are so-and-so's sister-in-law, so-and-so's nephew on their honeymoon, this kind of intrusion is disgusting.
Liu Qingshan put forward such relatively harsh conditions to remind the other party of its purely commercial nature, and adding one more person to the group would be an additional expense.
He even thought about repaying the money he earned to the band through other means. Unfortunately, before he could express his plan, he was stopped by Bao Qiming.
To him, it was just a piece of music. He got it without any effort and gave it away without any personal loss.
But he has such a temper that he doesn't want to see some people's private belongings shared with the public, especially the nature of overseas performances, which represents a country's industry image problem. He often travels abroad, and the last thing he wants to hear is foreigners talking about this. class topics.
Unfortunately, no one understood his good intentions, and even his enthusiasm in this matter gradually lost interest.
Therefore, facing Xing Wei's whispered explanation, he pointed out this point clearly: "Do you know why I have been unwilling to deal with the official? I just hate the condescension and officialism when nothing happens, and the blame-shifting after things happen. , Mingzhe protects himself, why did he go there earlier? If we adhere to certain rules from top to bottom, these things will not happen! "
He seemed to be getting angrier as he spoke, and he turned to look at Taylor, who was eating with a mouth full of oil. "Are you full? If so, let's go back and pack our luggage!"
In fact, despite her young age, Taylor had already seen the atmosphere at the wine table. Moreover, she could understand most Chinese now and knew what these people were struggling with.
In her opinion, her men only proposed normal business conditions. Why did these old men look like they were not willing to pay at all?
Just to make Liu Qingshan look good, she chose to eat and drink silently. When Liu Qingshan asked about her, she immediately put down her chopsticks and planned to get up and leave.
