Shiba Yoshigan and Takeda Harunobu actually don't care about this matter. The samurai family pays attention to morality, but what really determines the outcome is strength.
Whoever has the bigger fist is right.
The biggest reason why the two sides negotiated a peace this time was that the battle at Kawanakajima was so brutal that neither family wanted to fight again.
The principle is just a formality. The key is the division of ownership of Beixin. How to ensure that the bottom line of both parties is not breached and a reliable agreement can be reached that will not be torn up at any time.
The two of them mentioned morality first, as it was a face-saving project of the Wu family. No matter what the actual considerations of both sides are, both sides are good martial artists who are honest and reasonable.
The Wu family negotiated, saying it was dirty, but it was really dirty, and it was said to be clean, but it was spotless.
The higher you go, the more particular you become, and you are full of benevolence, justice, etiquette, wisdom and trust. The further down you go, the more barbaric you become, a land man with a mouth full of money.
This is the Wu family society with complete moral principles and etiquette, and the only way to overcome this stain is to overcome it.
Chrysanthemum and the Sword? Nonsense, it's obviously a memorial arch and a watch.
The two said a few useless preludes and quickly got to the point.
Sibo Yiyin thought deeply.
“His Majesty Takeda’s words are wrong.
The Murakami family and the Ogasawara family are famous families in Shinano, and they have made great contributions to the shogunate and the world.
Nowadays, the world is in chaos, and many descendants of high families are in trouble. After you and I are both Genji in Kawachi, we should preserve some dignity for the nobles.
You can never treat His Highness Murakami and His Highness Ogasawara badly. Do you think this is the truth? "
Shiba Yiyin's statement is also a traditional rule for protecting daimyo.
The Gaojia Gewu family in the guardianship system all have origins. Going back five hundred years, almost all of them are relatives.
Which family does not have a few poor relatives, and which family can guarantee that it will not be ruined?
Give others some dignity today, and this dignity will be passed on to your descendants in the future.
This is useless when compared to a profit-seeking Warring States daimyo like Oda Nobunaga. The Oda family is a rebel group that conquers the superiors all the way.
Oda Nobunaga cut off all the direct descendants of the Oda family, leaving only his own branch.
She, who does her best in everything she does, will talk to you about these principles of leaving a way for future generations?
But Takeda Harunobu is different.
The Takeda family is the guardian of the Kai Kingdom, and Kawachi Genji's bloodline ranks second in the guardianship system. Her family is actually the beneficiary of the system's blessings.
The previous governor of the Takeda family, Takeda Nobutora, was able to unify Kai Country, leaving a mess for Takeda Harunobu, but after all, it was a unified Kai Country, and it was also due to the Takeda family's character.
Although Takeda Harunobu embarked on the path of expansion in the Warring States Period, he concentrated a large amount of power and broke through many restrictions of the guardian system.
But there is one thing she still admits, and that is Gao Jiage's benefits to herself.
Therefore, the Takeda family's expansion throughout Shinano still left a dignity for the local prominent families, and this was no different for the Kiso family and the Suwa family.
Although there are also considerations of the cost of rule, Takeda Harunobu's attitude towards traditional samurai families is definitely much softer than Oda Nobunaga.
Takeda Harunobu chuckled, bowed slightly to Yoshigami, and said.
"That's what Yutai said.
The world is the world of Minamoto, and the right way is to have order in order of superiority and inferiority.
Nowadays, all countries are in chaos, and only the descendants of the Genji can stand up and bring order to the chaos, so that the prosperity of our descendants can continue. "
Looking at Takeda Harunobu who lowered his head respectfully and staring at the elegant swan-like back of her neck, Shiba Yoshigan couldn't help but roll his eyes.
Takeda Harunobu is a bastard.
She avoided the dignity that Yoshigami said. This was because she did not talk about the Takeda family's invasion of Shinano country and broke through the restrictions of the guardian system.
He also seized on the loopholes in Yiyin’s words and counterattacked.
The world is in chaos? The shogunate is still there, Ashikaga Yoshiteru doesn't want to lose face, right?
As the head of the imperial court, Yoshigami Shiba bluntly said that the world was in chaos. This was a slap in the face of the shogunate and the face of the Ashikaga family.
Anyone can say that in troubled times, only the Ashikaga family must whitewash peace, otherwise how can they use their fame to command the world and suppress others.
Yiyin expressed his sincerity, so he spoke a little more openly.
Unexpectedly, Takeda's cronies beat snakes and followed them with sticks, and insisted on dragging the Takeda family into invading Shinano country in order to contribute to the protection of the Genji world.
This was so shameless, causing Yiyin to instantly darken his face.
Takeda Harunobu covered his mouth and smiled. He took advantage of his words, but he couldn't really piss off Yoshigami Shiba, so he said.
“However, what Yutai said makes sense.
Your Highness Murakami and His Highness Ogasawara must be given dignity. What do you think? "
Yoshigan's face looked a little better, but Takeda Harunobu finally extended an olive branch and said calmly.
“There is no going back to the Murakami territory.
But since the Takanashi family is gone, someone will have to take care of the vacant territory, right?
The Kawanakajima Plain has been fought over by the Murakami Takanashi family for many years. Now that the Takanashi family is no longer around, they might as well give it to them all in order to find some peace. "
Takeda Harunobu sneered again and again.
"The two highnesses treated by the Royal Palace are too good to be true."
Don't blame Takeda Harunobu for being angry, Shiba Yoshigan's appetite is too big.
The situation before Hokushin was that the Murakami family was in the south and the Takanashi family was in the north. The two sides fought fiercely for control of the Kawanakajima Plain.
If the two families hadn't been fighting fiercely, the Takeda family wouldn't have seen the opportunity.
Yukitaka Sanada defrauded Toishijo, and Harunobu Takeda was able to quickly capture the Murakami family. Murakami Yoshikiyo and the Takanashi family were fighting, so being caught off guard was actually the biggest reason.
Now that the Takanashi family is dead, Shiba Yoshigan wants to use his old territory to settle the Murakami family and the Ogasawara family, and even give the Kawanakajima plain to the two families. How can Takeda Harunobu not be angry.
This is equivalent to giving the Northern believers the entire territory of the Takanashi family and Kawanaka Island, with a stone height of no less than 80,000 koku.
The entire Hokushin is only a hundred thousand stone high. If they agree to this, the Takeda family will be working for Murakami Yoshikiyo.
The Murakami family has moved, and their strength has not diminished, but has skyrocketed. Can the Takeda family watch the Murakami family make a comeback and buck the trend and become stronger?
What's more, Takeda Harunobu also did an unreasonable and terrible thing. She captured and sold all the samurai families near Yantian City who supported the Murakami family to Kai Country.
The century-old hope of the Murakami family was shattered in one fell swoop, and the local servants who were their basic base were wiped out. Murakami Yoshikiyo hated Takeda Harunobu to death.
If this local powerful faction, which is extremely hostile to the Takeda family, is allowed to increase in strength, it will be difficult for Takeda Harunobu to sleep well in the future.
She was categorical.
"The Takeda family will never agree to this, so please don't have any wild ideas."
Shiba Yiyin asked back.
"What do you think?"
"Kawanakajima is not an option. The old territory of the Takanashi family can be discussed, but it must be divided between the Murakami family and the Ogasawara family."
Yoshigoshi Shiba laughed angrily. Takeda Harunobu's proposal also poked at the Uesugi family's weakness.
According to her wishes, Zenkoji became the Takeda territory, and the entire Kawanakajima Plain also belonged to the Takeda family, so the Uesugi family's battle was in vain.
With the Kawanakajima Plain, the Takeda family has abundant logistics. Zenkoji Temple is also missing, the Togakushi Pass leads directly to the Myoko Plateau, and the Echigo-Takata Plain is right in front of you.
Only the Murakami and Ogasawara families, the old leaders of the Takanashi family, relied solely on the Iiyama Castle line and could not bear to see the Takeda family move north.
The two families had old grudges earlier, and if Takeda Harunobu continues to stir things up behind their backs, they might start a fight themselves.
If Yoshigan Shiba agrees to this condition, Uesugi Teruhora can be overthrown by the Echigo samurai family, and the blood shed by the Uesugi army on Kawanakajima will be in vain.
