The students present were all very dissatisfied with Li Ran's words without exception. In their view, Li Ran's behavior was typical of sensationalism and fame-seeking. You said you were right, I said I was right, but he just said you were both wrong.
If you knock over a boat of people with one pole, you will definitely not get the favor and approval of others.
What's more, among the people present, many people were disdainful of Li Ran's background, and naturally they were particularly disgusted with Li Ran's defense.
"Sir, what you said is wrong! Since King Wu divided the world, the emperor founded the country, the princes established their families, the ministers set up side chambers, the officials had two sects, and the scholars had subordinate children, these are all the proper etiquette of the Zhou Dynasty."
"Exactly! Even if the monarch's power is arbitrary, the ethical code cannot be exempted from it. Today's debate is only about the official office and the enfeoffment. If these two are removed, Zhou Li will be unable to tolerate it!"
"Yes, yes! Such remarks are truly rebellious!"
The students stood up one after another and argued with each other, causing chaos in the venue.
Obviously, many students do not understand Li Ran's views. This is no wonder, after all, whether it is monarchy or enfeoffment, it is a question of the ownership of rights and responsibilities. In the eyes of people at that time, whether a country can prosper depends on who has the power.
But in today's era, whether it is enfeoffment or monarchy, the shadow of Zhou Li is indispensable.
What Li Ran said just now refutes both enfeoffment and monarchy. If both are undesirable, how can the Zhou rites exist?
But at this time, Shusun Bao seemed unusually calm. I just felt that since Li Ran said that, he must have some backup plans. So he unfolded his sleeves and waved his hands to signal the students present to quiet down.
You must know that Li Ran, as the history of Luoyi's collection room, is the guardian and inheritor of Zhou rites. Among the many students present, who knows Zhou etiquette better than Li Ran?
"Haha, you really only know one and not the other. You only think that 'Zhou Rites' is a dead thing. But you don't know that Duke Zhou established rituals and music and the world was stable. How can the two words 'Rites and Music' be a dead thing? dead?"
Everyone heard this, but they were also shocked. But knowing that there must be something to say behind Li Hou, they all waited with bated breath.
"Rites and music are the way for the world to return to its heart! If it returns to its heart, the people's hearts will be unified! If the people's hearts are unified, everyone in the world will not miss its virtues! Therefore, if we cannot win over the hearts of the people, how can 'ritual and music' survive? Therefore, in ancient times, A wise man once said: 'The people are the lords of the gods!' This statement can be understood!"
"What we are talking about now, monarchy or enfeoffment, are just the form of power, not the essence of power! Therefore, neither monarchy nor enfeoffment can solve the fundamental problem!"
Li Ran answered Shusun Bao's question.
At this time, he reviewed the future world in his mind and thought of all kinds of countries that had appeared in history. Every country that had been overthrown, covered, and abandoned had actually failed to solve the fundamental problem of social contradictions. Thousands of years of history Whistling through his mind!
What is the fundamental problem? !
Shusun Bao was about to speak, but unexpectedly, in an inconspicuous corner next to the gathering, a young man with luxurious clothes and a handsome face suddenly stood up and asked for him.
"I dare to ask Brother Ziming, what is the fundamental problem?"
The young man looks similar to Li Ran, but he has an innate temperament, an approachable temperament, and he speaks calmly, giving people a very comfortable feeling.
"Huh? It's actually Tai Ziye."
"Meet the prince!"
The young man's voice immediately attracted the attention of everyone present, and they all stood up and bowed to him. It turns out that this person is Ji Ye, the crown prince of Lu.
Everyone saw the ceremony and were extremely respectful.
When he saw the prince, Li Ran remembered what he had heard about the Lu State on the road a few days ago.
The former king of Lu State, Duke Lu Xiang, had just passed away, and Prince Ji Ye was the designated heir by Duke Xiang of Lu. However, Duke Lu Xiang's mourning period had not yet ended, so Prince Ye's enthronement ceremony had not yet been held. At this time, he was still only the crown prince.
When Tai Ziye was called out, he didn't show any airs. Instead, he responded to everyone's greetings one by one in a very peaceful manner, which was like a spring breeze.
"What the prince asked is exactly what I am thinking. I dare to ask Ziming, what is the fundamental question?"
After Shusunbao and the prince greeted each other, he turned around and continued to ask.
So everyone's eyes focused on Li Ran again, and they all wanted to know what the fundamental problem Li Ran said was, and whether this problem could support his refutation of the two most effective political systems in the world today.
"The fundamental problem is the common people."
"A problem for the common people?"
"It's really nonsense. People have been farming since ancient times, so what's the problem?"
When everyone present heard this, they couldn't help but whisper to each other again.
Uncle Sunbao and Tai Ziye were also extremely surprised by Li Ran's answer.
Because they themselves rely on common people to farm the land, and Li Ran said that the problem lies here, doesn't it mean that the problem lies with them? Of course, none of the people present could even think of running away.
"Ziming, what's the problem with the common people?"
Shu Sunbao frowned, vaguely feeling that this question was not as simple as people thought, and he also had a very bad premonition about the answer Li Ran was about to give.
Tai Ziye, who had been standing in an inconspicuous corner, said nothing more. He only looked at Li Ran attentively, waiting for Li Ran's answer.
"Little Master, I think this man is not a fool, right? How can a normal person say such ridiculous things?"
Next to the woman wearing a hat and veil, the servant once again expressed confusion about Li Ran.
However, the woman turned a deaf ear. The veil was still directed toward Li Ran, who seemed to be very focused.
At this time, facing the doubts of a group of students, the prince, Shusun Bao and others, Li Ran had to continue to explain:
"The so-called common people are actually the foundation for maintaining the survival of the world!"
"Since the two emperors of Yan and Huang, Yao and Shun have nurtured (nurtured) the people, and the common people have lived in groups, and land is the basis for the common people's survival. Our ancestors created well fields, and divided their fields into nine, eight for private, and one for public. Nine are public taxes. Choosing one of them can be called benevolent government.”
"Nowadays, the common people all rely on the fields of the countryside, and the tribute from the world is not enough? The common people are not enough to feed themselves. If they cannot feed themselves, how can the common people survive? If the common people do not survive, how can the country stand?"
"Therefore, no matter whether it is enfeoffment or monarchy, exploring the root cause cannot solve this problem, so it is not advisable."
Li Ran's words immediately shut up everyone present, and many people even looked at Li Ran in shock for a while.
Because they never expected that the common people's issue raised by Li Ran was, in the final analysis, related to the survival of the common people. It was neither an issue of the officialdom nor the enfeoffment of powerful people, but an issue of the common people at the bottom of society!
"My Lord is awesome! My Lord is mighty"
After Owl Wing heard this, he immediately gave Li Ran a thumbs up.
Finally, after a long time passed, someone was finally able to speak for them from the standpoint of common people like them!
What a pity! It’s really not easy!
Owl Wing was almost moved to tears, but when he thought that his master said these words, he might as well keep the tears. He had been on the run with him for several months, and if he wanted to cry, his master should be the first to be moved to tears. ?
On the other side, no matter how enlightened Uncle Sunbao and Prince Ji Ye were, they were deeply shocked when they heard these words. Their faces were full of surprise, and they looked at Li Ran speechless for a long time.
If placed in the future world, their expressions would most likely be called ignorant.
But if you put yourself in their shoes and look at it from their perspective, their shock is actually understandable.
After all, whether it is Shusun Bao, Tai Ziye, or other students present, who can gather here to discuss the issues of the political system in today's world, they must be people of status.
Li Ran, the former Luoyi keeper of the library, was called out at the beginning and was despised and despised by many people. It was precisely because in the eyes of these people, Li Ran's identity did not allow him to sit with them to discuss how to be noble and noble. serious question.
Therefore, in their view, the common people were slaves and their vassals, and they should bear everything they should bear under the Zhou ritual system.
To them, the life and death of common people are like the falling leaves flying from spring to autumn. I have seen it, but I have not completely seen it. Where you fall and how you rot has nothing to do with me.
And this is actually the fundamental reason why both feudalism and monarchy are undesirable.