Chapter 441 The advantages and disadvantages of the six-part system 33
"That's good." Liu Shui said.
People in the Jiuqing system all praise the West inappropriately, saying that the Six-Ministry system is nothing more than that.
As for the people on the Six-part System, they all sneered with disdain. They wanted to point out the shortcomings of the Six-Part System, which was really looking down on people.
"What about the shortcomings? What about the shortcomings of Liubu?" A person who supported Liubu stood up and said.
Liu Shui sneered and said: "Of course there are shortcomings. Listen carefully. First of all, the six-ministry system only has six officials."
"Isn't this nonsense?" Zuo Wei couldn't help complaining.
Liu Shui's face darkened and he said, "What nonsense are you talking about? I haven't even started talking yet."
"Sorry, go ahead." Sitting scratched his face in embarrassment.
Liu Shui said in a deep voice: "Although the six-department system includes most of the responsibilities of the imperial court, the six parts are too extensive, resulting in no coordination between them.
For example, if a war breaks out and the Ministry of War wants to send troops, the troops need military pay, but the Ministry of Revenue says that the court has no extra money.
So the soldiers move out or not.
Also, the Ministry of Industry wants to repair the dams of the Yellow River, and the Ministry of Household Affairs needs to pay for it. If the Ministry of Household Affairs has no money, will the Ministry of Industry still do it?
The Ministry of War also needs weapons to send out troops, and the Ministry of Industry needs to make them, but the Ministry of Industry also has other things to do, and they don't have time, so what.
The coordination is not as good as the Jiuqing system.
In this way, some things will inevitably overlap. For example, when sending troops, the Ministry of War will ask for the order to send troops, and then ask the Ministry of Revenue to ask for money and food, and then ask the Ministry of Industry to send weapons or tools on the battlefield.
A troop dispatch requires three departments to be busy at the same time. Will this result in the inability to achieve good communication among the three departments during the period?
Secondly, when three departments are busy working on one thing, do you think there will be any duplication of things?
Moreover, the Sixth Department covers everything in the country, so when other officials want to do things, will they overlap with the Sixth Department?
Yes, definitely.
This is waste. Doing something repeatedly is a waste.
Generally speaking, I think the six-part system is poorly coordinated, inefficient, and extravagant.
This is not the case with the Jiuqing system. The officials of the imperial court are clearly distinguished and it is impossible to repeat them.
Zuo Wei, do you think what I said is right? "
Zuo Wei nodded and said: "I agree, so we can find a method of coordination in the six-part system. Discussing politics is not just about finding shortcomings and then making up for them.
The reason why the Jiuqing system has existed for thousands of years is that it is constantly changing. After the First Emperor unified the six countries, he changed the Jiuqing system.
Although the official positions remain unchanged, the hereditary system has been abolished, and all future nine ministers will be appointed by His Majesty.
However, His Majesty selects talents from among hundreds of officials.
However, after the establishment of the six-ministry system, the appointment of officials was all handed over to the Ministry of Personnel. As a result, who could be promoted and who was demoted must be assessed by the Ministry of Personnel.
A capable official will not be buried.
Now, local officials are uneven, and most are even incompetent. Under such a system, Da Qin would only cause local chaos. "
"That's nonsense." Liu Shui said, "How could the country of Qin be in chaos when the country is peaceful and the people are safe? You are cursing Da Qin. I will definitely inform your majesty of this matter."
"We are now discussing politics and discussing politics. No matter what you say, there is nothing wrong. If your Majesty goes to do what you said and does not listen to the opinions of loyal ministers, he will not be able to unify the six countries."
Feng Quji spoke at this time: "At the political discussion meeting, you can say anything as long as it concerns the system of six ministries and the system of nine ministers, but you must not talk nonsense or talk nonsense. It needs to be well-founded."
"No." Everyone responded.
Zuo Wei said again: "Prime Minister Feng, I have actually listed several differences between the Six-Ministry System and the Nine-Ministry System. Please listen to it.
First, the Nine Ministers system was appointed and dismissed by the First Emperor; the promotion and appointment of officials in the Six Ministries was in charge of the Ministry of Personnel.
Secondly, the Jiuqing system is the official personnel system; the three provinces and six ministries are the national administrative agencies.
Third, the Jiuqing system is a comprehensive central administrative system that integrates administrative, military, and supervisory powers, and imperial and state affairs are mixed together; the Six-Ministry system is a central administrative system that integrates decision-making, deliberation, and administration, that is, everything is handled by the imperial court.
Four. The system of nine ministers established and consolidated autocratic power; the system of three provinces and six ministries made autocratic centralization perfect. In other words, His Majesty has everything in his hands. "
"Absurd." Liu Shui said, "Today's Qin Dynasty belongs to the First Emperor. He said one thing, but no one dares to say two. There is no need to strengthen or make it more perfect."
"It is true that the First Emperor did not use it, but what about Qin II, Qin III, and even Qianqiu? Are you really sure that all officials will obey His Majesty as always, and there will not be powerful ministers like Lu Buwei?
After the emergence of the six-ministry system, powerful ministers like Lu Buwei will rarely appear. Even if they appear, they will obey the emperor's mission.
I would like to ask, do you choose the Nine Ministers System with powerful officials, or the Six-Ministry System with no powerful officials, or the Six-Ministry System with a lower probability.
Also, once the six-ministry system is implemented, as long as officials in the world work diligently, love the people, and make achievements, they will have the opportunity to be promoted, instead of relying on military merit.
In addition, the imperial examination system is to discover talented people among the people, rather than a recommendation system, relying on interpersonal relationships to become officials.
With the Ministry of Households, the enthusiasm of officials in the world will be brought up. Who doesn't want to become an official? Don't say that being an official is just for the people.
I don’t believe in the so-called officials serving the people, because so far, the officials I have seen are all selfish.
This is not to say that there are no good officials, but that there are too few. They have been suppressed and have no way to rise further.
There is also the Hubu, whose predecessor was Zhili Neishi in the Jiuqing system.
However, the Household Department manages more, not only the money and food in the world, but also land, population, commodity prices, etc. It is more important and has more responsibilities than governing the history of Li Nei.
The emergence of the Ministry of Industry allowed the court to conduct research and inventions, train craftsmen, etc., and make Great Qin's tools more perfect, just like the Imperial Master gave Great Qin many inventions.
The emergence of the Ministry of War can bring all the art of war in the world to its disposal. Arranging a group of military generals in the Ministry of War can better manage the art of war in the world.
In addition to being priests, the Ministry of Rites is also responsible for rituals, music, education, religion, ethnicity and foreign affairs.
The Ministry of Punishment, you don’t need to explain, all criminal laws in the world belong to the Ministry of Punishment, not just criminal law, but criminal cases. All cases, big or small, must be sent to the Ministry of Punishment, especially large cases, such as beheading cases.
The Ministry of Punishment must conduct another trial, and there must be no unjust, false or wrongful convictions. Therefore, many criminal investigation personnel must be established under the Ministry of Justice to handle cases of all sizes.
These six departments govern almost everything in the world. For the court, they are indispensable. Even if some things are repeated and wasteful, they can be changed in the future, but they are indispensable now. What do you think? "
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