"The Criminal Department cannot move."
Zhu Xiongying sealed the deal with just one sentence.
Zhu Xiongying defended the Ministry of Punishment, not because he had any interests with the Ministry of Punishment and deliberately held on to the Ministry of Punishment and refused to let go.
In the whole world, is it the land of the king?
Whether the Ministry of Punishment exists or not is just a matter of Zhu Xiongying's words.
However, the reason why Zhu Xiongying does not want to touch the Punishment Department is that the existence of the Punishment Department is reasonable.
The Penal Department is composed of administrative officers (upper and middle-level officials) and executioners (jailers).
Its functions are to detain prisoners, provide confessions, and hear cases.
"It's good that you figured out what the problem was."
Zhu Xiongying said calmly. Every move he made was filled with the pressure of the superior. Moreover, this was not done deliberately by Zhu Xiongying. It was radiated naturally from his body.
"I don't dare to be a humble minister."
Yang Pu and the others quickly lowered their heads and said in shame,
They finally understood that His Majesty asked them to do it. It depends on how well they can do it.
The current situation can only be regarded as a lucky break, and it has not been perfect to satisfy His Majesty.
Fang Xiaoru and Yang Pu both had looks of self-blame in their eyes.
If I had known earlier, I should have thought more about it before reporting it.
Zhu Yuanzhang, who was quietly admiring Da Sun's performance, couldn't hold it in any longer and said,
"My eldest grandson, you are so right to do this! We also know that there is something wrong with the Xingbu, but we can't just tell him and just have the Xingbu pull it out."
Zhu Xiongying nodded in agreement and continued,
"Yang Pu, you just told me that the current problem in the Ministry of Punishment is that the upper levels have put pressure on the jailers, causing the jailers to work in unison and use rough methods to create unjust cases.
This is the problem with the Ministry of Justice now, right? "
"Yes, Your Majesty."
Yang Pu responded respectfully.
"But the crux of the matter is not in the Ministry of Punishment."
Not only Yang Pu and the others, but also Zhu Yuanzhang looked at his eldest grandson with doubts.
"Let me ask you first, among the large number of cases handled by the Criminal Department, how many unjust cases account for them?"
"Less than half percent."
Yang Pu thought carefully and gave the answer.
"In other words, it is only a small probability that mistakes will occur in the Ministry of Criminal Justice's handling of cases, resulting in unjust, false, and wrongful convictions.
What's the reason? "
Zhu Xiongying seemed to be teaching these ministers a lesson, and asked in a persuasive manner,
Fang Xiaoru replied,
"Your Majesty, I think this is because most of the prisoners in the prison are extremely vicious people. Even if the jailers surrender and beat them, most of the time they are right."
Zhu Xiongying nodded,
After Fang Xiaoru said this, a look of understanding flashed in his eyes.
“So I say that the problem does not lie with the Ministry of Punishment, but because there are a large number of cases that far exceed the capacity of the Ministry of Punishment, which has led to the abnormal development of the Ministry of Punishment.
The existence of unjust cases is inevitable. We can only reduce the probability to a minimum extent, but we cannot completely reduce it to zero.
Sometimes you can’t just look at what you did wrong, but you also have to look at what you did right.
Obviously, the existence of the Criminal Department has more advantages than disadvantages.
If the Ministry of Punishment is reformed or eliminated directly, no one will be able to establish a department to replace the Ministry of Punishment in a short period of time. So what should we do with the backlog of cases?
Could it be that because of the existence of unjust cases, we will not sanction other cases? "
When Yang Pu and the other three people heard this, they fell to the ground with admiration in their eyes.
Lao Zhu is not exaggerating. He grins happily on the sidelines and often puts on an expression that I also want to say.
The co-authored eldest grandson became Lao Zhu’s perfect substitute.
Feeling happy, Lao Zhu suddenly felt that something was wrong. Damn what Da Sun said carefully, why do you always feel that it means something?
I was in a hurry to get rid of the punishment part, but I didn’t even think about what to replace the punishment part. As soon as my brain got hot, I slapped my thighs and did it...
Why does this sound so similar to what we said about deposing the prime minister?
Lao Zhu couldn't be happy thinking about this, so he could only pretend to be transparent.
Zhu Xiongying paused, feeling that his throat was a little dry as he spoke. He was about to reach out to pick up the tea cup and take a sip of water, when he immediately handed one over to him.
"Grandson, hehe, you drink water, you drink water..."
Lao Zhu had a flattering smile on his face,
Xiao Xiao Zhu didn’t know what it meant, so he took a sip of water and continued,
"It is impossible to solve the loopholes in Ming Dynasty's law enforcement process by looking for them in the Ministry of Justice."
The various institutions and systems of the feudal dynasties of the Central Plains did not exist independently. They complemented each other and were woven into a large network.
Pull one hair and move the whole body,
"Think about it carefully. Based on what you saw in the prison, can you continue to simplify the problem?"
Yang Pu and Fang Xiaoru fell into silence.
The only sound left in the small garden was the rustling sound blown by the wind.
Zhu Xiongying did not rush them, leaving them plenty of time to think.
after awhile,
Fang Xiaoru was the first to speak,
"His Majesty."
Zhu Xiongying looked at him encouragingly and said, "Say."
"Wei Chen has figured it out. The real problem is that the Ministry of Punishment has absolute say in the prisoner's case.
However, the Ming Dynasty lacked a permanent department like the Tribunal of the Three Divisions. The Tribunal of the Three Divisions consumed a huge amount of manpower and financial resources, and it was impossible to retry unjust cases frequently. "
Zhu Xiongying nodded and sighed,
"This is where the joints are."
In the Ming Dynasty, if you break the law, the Ministry of Punishment has the final say. You can be sentenced however they want.
Ordinary people have no other way to appeal a second time. The Tribunal Tribunal seems to have this function, but in the final analysis it is still a tool exclusively used by the rulers.
Unless it is a certain case that has a particularly negative impact on public opinion, a three-division trial will be initiated.
Lao Zhu was also frowning next to him.
It's easy to say it, but where can we get a special department to wipe the ass of the Ministry of Punishment?
Lao Zhu and Yang Pu, you look at me, I look at you,
I haven't come up with any good ideas.
The last few people's eyes focused on Zhu Xiongying again.
How to fix it? It depends on Your Majesty!
“We need to encourage more lawyers among the private sector.”
"That's right! Lawyer!" Yang Pu was enlightened and gave his Majesty a reminder, "With lawyers, we can try again the prisoners who have been wronged! Let's make some adjustments to the punishment department. Wouldn't that be appropriate? !”
"Not a lawyer, a lawyer."
Zhu Xiongying shook his head.
Yang Pu's excitement stopped, "Your Majesty, what is a lawyer?"
"Hmph, we don't know what a lawyer is, anyway, that lawyer is very shady!"
Lao Zhu first interjected and said,
It seems that Lao Zhu has a great prejudice against lawyers, but Lao Zhu traveled all over the country in his early years, and his words cannot be without purpose.
For example, Fang Tangjing in Jiupin Zhimaguan can be said to be a true portrayal of an ancient lawyer.
The lawyer and the county government are in collusion, let alone redressing the injustice of the wronged prisoner, they are not wronging anyone else!
In the final analysis, the reason why lawyers can play with the law in this way is because ordinary people do not understand the law, and these lawyers have an information gap.
